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  1. #271
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    Jirah's Avatar
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    I like the Susano one and the memoria one. Stuff in Sacrifice is rubbish
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  2. #272
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    Also I'm really kinda flabbergasted by how vehemently people are clutching to a mechanic that requires absolutely no skill by their own admission and whose absence would not majorly affect the fight in any capacity. Even just changing it so the person failing the mechanic dies while everyone else lives is such a minor change.
    I don't really care if they leave it in or take it out. I'm just offering suggestions for people who are having a physical problem with it because they're probably not getting rid of QTEs. Besides, $30 for a turbo controller isn't that much especially since it wouldn't just be for this game. Could be useful for just going through menus or breaking down items/crafting in other RPGs or firing sustained single-shot weapons in an FPS. Or those with fishing minigames. Turbo buttons/controls are a good investment anyway because the fewer button presses the longer your device lasts in the long-run.

    There is an opportunity to troll in the recent fight, I admit. Especially since it never indicates who fails the event.
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    Last edited by hydralus; 08-21-2020 at 06:00 PM.

  3. #273
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    Lhunuial's Avatar
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    Ishild Hawke
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VenKitsune View Post
    Unless one had a medical condition that would prevent them otherwise, i honestly doubt anyone would really feel PHYSICAL PAIN from sliding their hand across their keyboard for a few seconds and bumping their hand up and down a bit. Again, its not really that hard if you do it outside of "left click like a maniac"

    Plus, this fight will only be done once, maybe twice by each player at most. I dont see the issue, its not like you have to spam that hard every time you want to farm the extreme.
    In case you haven't noticed, I have reported on having a medical condition. Other people have reported they experienced pain after recovering from a medical condition. And no, if you keep failing this QTE then you need to do it multiple times. So stop acting like what you experience applies to other people as well. I have had to do this at least 6 times already.

    Urgh some of you people really refuse to consider other people's limitations.
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    Last edited by Lhunuial; 08-21-2020 at 06:05 PM.
    "I don't know how to explain to you that you should care about other people."

  4. #274
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    VenKitsune's Avatar
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    Ven Diclonius
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    Quote Originally Posted by yotsuffy View Post
    Not everyone plays with mouse+keyboard.
    True, but its an option available to everyone, even on PS4 you can plug and play a keyboard/mouse in to play as if it were a PC. You could even plug one in specifically for QTEs if you really wanted.

    I'm not familiar with how QTEs work on controller...But if its anything like keyboard...Just press random buttons? Mashing one button over and over again is called repetitive strain injury, pressing one of each button 1-2 times for 10 seconds is called stretching your hand muscles.

    Once again, really do not see the problem. Just press buttons fast? You likely mash buttons while waiting for your GCD during normal combat anyway so i dont see the difference here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lhunuial View Post
    In case you haven't noticed, I have reported on having a medical condition. Other people have reported they experienced pain after recovering from a medical condition. And no, if you keep failing this QTE then you need to do it multiple times. So stop acting like what you experience applies to other people as well. I have had to do this at least 6 times already.

    Urgh some of you people really refuse to consider other people's limitations.
    At what point specifically did you say you DID have a medical condition as such? You said "People" have been experiencing physical pain, not "I have been experiencing physical pain". How was i to know? I'm not omnipotent, i dont know if you have anything like that or not, which is why i said "Unless one had", to include that possibility. I'm sorry if my inclusion of that offended you?
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    Last edited by VenKitsune; 08-21-2020 at 06:18 PM.
    2.0 Veteran from 2013. Just looking to be helpful. DRK is Love, DRK is life.

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  5. 08-21-2020 06:16 PM
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  6. #275
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    Lhunuial's Avatar
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    Ishild Hawke
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    I quote myself here: "Input lag also doesn't help with this QTE. That also bothered me on a few attempts. I tried again last night because I was feeling pretty good, I thought I might be able to pass that QTE, but no. With a relaxed pace, even when I pressed several buttons I failed and my hands still hurt because I had still had to keep it up for so long. At the end I still had to speed up my pace and I still failed. It's pretty frustrating."

    I have been pretty active in this thread trying to make my case. So if I sound frustrated, it's because I am. This QTE really not as easy as some of you people make it out to be. I had no issues with the QTEs in this game, until now.
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    "I don't know how to explain to you that you should care about other people."

  7. 08-21-2020 06:46 PM

  8. #276
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    Burado Troizkiy
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    Quote Originally Posted by VenKitsune View Post
    True, but its an option available to everyone, even on PS4 you can plug and play a keyboard/mouse in to play as if it were a PC. You could even plug one in specifically for QTEs if you really wanted.

    I'm not familiar with how QTEs work on controller...But if its anything like keyboard...Just press random buttons? Mashing one button over and over again is called repetitive strain injury, pressing one of each button 1-2 times for 10 seconds is called stretching your hand muscles.

    Once again, really do not see the problem. Just press buttons fast? You likely mash buttons while waiting for your GCD during normal combat anyway so i dont see the difference here.



    At what point specifically did you say you DID have a medical condition as such? You said "People" have been experiencing physical pain, not "I have been experiencing physical pain". How was i to know? I'm not omnipotent, i dont know if you have anything like that or not, which is why i said "Unless one had", to include that possibility. I'm sorry if my inclusion of that offended you?
    The average GCD for all classes is 1.8-2.3 seconds, I tried to do it by pressing at a speed of 1.5-2 seconds and it doesn't work, I just kill the party. Ditto for light spam. I am doing quick spam. I will not have such problems, but I can say that I have friends. And you are all here discussing the physiology of other people, as if you have a Ph.D. and diagnosed yourself. There are a lot of situations, and the loss of game progress (for someone 7 years old) due to one mechanic is nonsense. In addition, I have been playing with ARR for a long time and I can say that the game has become much easier for casual players, so I do not see any problems with changing or removing the mechanics, it is still easier than a children's platformer, with or without it. But problem still in massed wipe
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  9. #277
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    Sono Faolain
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    One day people will read before they post. One day.
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    "The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."
    J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

  10. #278
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatfright View Post
    One day people will read before they post. One day.
    "Today is not that day. Tomorrow isn't looking too good, either."
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  11. #279
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    Quote Originally Posted by VenKitsune View Post
    Unless one had a medical condition that would prevent them otherwise, i honestly doubt anyone would really feel PHYSICAL PAIN from sliding their hand across their keyboard for a few seconds and bumping their hand up and down a bit. Again, its not really that hard if you do it outside of "left click like a maniac"

    Plus, this fight will only be done once, maybe twice by each player at most. I dont see the issue, its not like you have to spam that hard every time you want to farm the extreme.
    But that is the point of this thread. That people exist that have these conditions and that it had hurt them. (And I have no such condition but since I was a bit shocked at how fast it went down I smashed it so hard that even my fingers hurt afterwards...and I feared for my equiment too..smashing is not something that will make it work longer..) All of that for something that is neither truly a challenge nor really outstanding awesome content. Honestly for me it took away from the scene because I needed to focus so much on smashing the buttons (and I used more than one) that I barely even saw what is happening on screen.

    Edit: You could of course argue that one does not need to smash it so much but 1. there are people that took it slowly and failed and 2. how would one know that when it happens? If I see something that goes down really fast and I barely even manage to do it with pure smashing then why should I assume that its fine to do slower? If I would fail my thought would not be: I was going too fast, but that I was going to slow..thus I would smash it even harder next time..
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    Last edited by Alleo; 08-22-2020 at 06:33 PM.

  12. #280
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    But that is the point of this thread.
    Sorry to disappoint but that was the other thread about the same button smashing topic. Though this one might have killed it.

    I made this thread because i find these active time events detracting from the overall fights.
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