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  1. #21
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    Current patch rate is fine, it's the ppl complaining about "lack of updates" and "wasted resources" that suck.
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  2. #22
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    In MMORPG land, XIV is putting out patches nearly as fast as Rift, a game that's being praised for its consistency with updates.

    I think SE is doing fine, considering they have 2.0 to deal with too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    Its so with a new install there are less patches to go through... so many of them include previous patches
    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    This is so the only patch they need to ever host is the current one, no multiple patching if you dissapear for a year. I remember trying to update XI after a fresh install...lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    This isn't new, and I don't see the problem with it. They do it so people don't have to download a bajillion patches when they return or start for the first time, they just need to download 1 for every major patch.
    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Ah if only you knew that almost every company that runs an MMO or online game repackage data for an obvious reason. It's "redundant" for concurrent players but it's not for new players.
    You all should look up the term "incremental updates". Might open your eyes.
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    As much as you want to believe SE is the bad guy here, they're not. It's pretty standard practice and the only reason you never realize it is because other MMOs repackage the data in larger updates therefore you wouldn't care to comb an update with a fine toothed comb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    You all should look up the term "incremental updates". Might open your eyes.
    You should look up "If spending an extra 10 minutes a month bothers you, although your time isn't worth squat, then you should learn not to let insignificant things bother you so much"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    You all should look up the term "incremental updates". Might open your eyes.
    I did look it up. I didn't actually find anything. If you're going to suggest someone should look something up, make sure it'll actually turn up relevant results. Wikipedia certainly doesn't have anything on the issue that I could find. What I could find on random other sites basically said the difference between incremental and the way SE does it is to assist those will lesser connections.

    If you're playing an MMO, you are assumed to have a fast connection with no data cap. I don't see the issue here.
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  7. #27
    Exactly, just like all those people who subscribe to XBL or want DLC should know that you're investing in a venture. Unless you live in like Antarctica or somewhere deep in the mountains or an ISP that's greedy, datacaps really shouldn't be an issue, or if it will continue to be an issue..playing MMOs may not be a wise decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    I'd rather have them stop releasing redundant data for us to download. Last 3 patches were all the same size, differing in a few kb. I honestly doubt it's a coincidence.
    Oy vey.

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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    You should look up "If spending an extra 10 minutes a month bothers you, although your time isn't worth squat, then you should learn not to let insignificant things bother you so much"
    Yes, why improve anything, we can just all go back to dial-up and enjoy our 24 hour patching sessions. Bugs should not be fixed because they are all working as intended, and we don't need any new content because there is already enough to do in game.


    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    I did look it up. I didn't actually find anything. If you're going to suggest someone should look something up, make sure it'll actually turn up relevant results. Wikipedia certainly doesn't have anything on the issue that I could find. What I could find on random other sites basically said the difference between incremental and the way SE does it is to assist those will lesser connections.

    If you're playing an MMO, you are assumed to have a fast connection with no data cap. I don't see the issue here.
    I guess they didn't define an article on updates, one on backups does the job, too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incremental_backup

    Bandwidth is not an issue, the horribly broken patch system is. The less time you spend in it, the better.
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    Last edited by Soukyuu; 02-05-2012 at 03:29 AM.

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  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    Yes, why improve anything, we can just all go back to dial-up and enjoy our 24 hour patching sessions. Bugs should not be fixed because they are all working as intended, and we don't need any new content because there is already enough to do in game.
    Stop reaching.

    There's nothing "to improve", they repackage data because it's helpful in the long run in terms of convenience. Have you ever fresh installed this game? No? Exactly.
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