Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Vahlnir]

Dear tank we had earlier today in Titania trial:

We realized you were not new to the trial, yet you asserted your paladin dominance over the experienced gunbreaker tank by yeeting Titania to yourself. You kept her out of the middle for puddles, which made the runes a bit trickier to deal with on timing and overall dps uptime; you would not be a good tank and pull aggro off of some of the dps, and instead insisted you run around the arena while the gnb tank desperately tried to save some of the dps; you then decided spinning Titania was a good idea, thereby getting me and a couple others cleaved; and the crowning achievement of all: continually standing in the vines and eating damage while keeping Titania all the way over in f*cking Narnia.

Somehow during the fight the gnb tank and the rest of us realized you were carried through as an offtank and had absolutely no f*cking clue what to actually do in the fight. Somehow this sort of idiocy spread to our other dps and our nin decided using lb3 at 100% was the perfect moment to use it. Second attempt through after our first wipe you did your 'I AM ME TANK' and ripped hate from the actual experienced tank for this run. You then proceeded to nearly get us wiped again until the gnb called you out on your bullsh*t. During the fight you would also not stack up for Flame Rune. Stack markers are 'shared damage' markers. Somehow during the second attempt the arena was set on fire. I'm guessing it was you ignoring mechanics again. This is not fine.

You were one very lucky puppy that I came in with two healer friends that know the fight and their jobs and dragged most of the party kicking and screaming over the finish line.

Do the rest of the PUG groups a favor out there: Don't be a dick and ask if the other tank wants to MT instead of just assuming you've got dem big boi pants on and immediately rushing after dat fae ass. If he does not, then you're it buddy. We hope you know the fight at this point, if not well, you've done f*cked up.

Sincerely,
The other 7 people you were partied with.

I know that had to be rough and all, but I couldn't help but laugh. I'm so sorry.

[Vyrerus]

So I was running Puppet's Bunker today to get the tank coat for glam. I ran on Gunbreaker my first go of it, and PLD my next two goes of it. Got the coat on my third go, yay!

But the story comes from the first go. I hadn't tanked it before, so I wasn't sure if I needed highest hate in my party or not, but I figured, "Ehh, better safe than sorry in case the guy gunning to tank goes down." So first boss I'm an orange dorito the whole fight, thinking, "Huh looks like I won't be tanking even if I wanted to, guess the other tanks outgear me." Other tanks were a WAR and another GNB. First set of trash I wound up tanking all the trash... save one of the bigger mech things. Ok...

2nd boss is obviously set up party by party, so I got to tank that. Fun.

3rd Boss I pulled hate from the WAR. THey were the guy gunning to tank everything. I'm like, "Whoops, didn't think that would happen." So I turn Royal Guard off. Well, the Pod edge mechs start happening and the WAR moves the boss sorta late and some melee lose uptime, guess they were in the other GNB's party. THe GNB vokes it. So the WAR and other GNB start having a voke fight, the WAR keeps ahead. I decide to turn Royal Guard back on. WAR dies. due to a lack of healing. I guess maybe his heals went down. I don't keep alliance healthbars on my HUD. So then I'm tank, and the other GNB vokes, and I ignore it, and they can't take it from me. So I tank it the rest of the way.

We get to final boss. WAR does the countdown, other GNB runs in immediately. THey start hashing it out in alliance chat. So as it's about to transition from orb phase to doll phase(it's basically Calcabrina if you think about it), I turn Royal Guard on, and while the two of them angrily type and fight in alliance chat I start tanking it. No provokes happened. I read the log after, and it seems the WAR implied that the other GNB was trying to solve personal inadequacies by trying to dominate tanking, so he turned his stance off. The other GNB, not to be outdone fired back with, "Yeah, whatever dude." and also turned his stance off.

Looks into my webcam like I'm on Parks & Rec "Normally, if given a choice between doing something and nothing, I choose to do nothing. But I will do something if it helps someone do nothing."

[Avatre]

Yesterday, while running Puppets' Bunker for my weekly, I ended up disconnecting during the final boss(YAY 90k!) just before the transition from orb to humanoid. Well, I came back dead(obviously), but with an added glitch. I had the "Down for the Count" debuff, and it wasn't going away. My healers couldn't raise me, and even when I respawned at the start it was still there. Thankfully it was gone when I left the instance, but I couldn't do anything except watch them fight, and try to get rid of it(in case of a wipe) by respawning.

[Dreamsoap]

I Q'd into Holminster Switch as SAM to level and we had a tank (DRK) who only pulled on mob at a time at the start. Healer insisted there were more mobs ahead and they could handle healing wall to wall. Tank insisted because they were new to the dungeon, they only wanted to pull one at a time because "there's some big stuff in here that can kill you". Healer would get frustrated and pull ahead and I'd just gap close, pop arm's length and bring them to the tank already slowed. I don't blame them tbh. Yes, SHB dungeons hit hard, but wall to wall is more than feasible with good cooldown use and an experienced healer. Not forgetting TBN, which has honestly carried me through cure/benefic/psychic spam healers who couldn't even handle small stuff. 1 -3 mobs at a time in level 70-80 dungeons is just not experimenting to push yourself or learn the limits of your class, outside of bad dps and healers or niche mechanics.

[HeulGDarian]

I Q'd into Holminster Switch as SAM to level and we had a tank (DRK) who only pulled on mob at a time at the start. Healer insisted there were more mobs ahead and they could handle healing wall to wall. Tank insisted because they were new to the dungeon, they only wanted to pull one at a time because "there's some big stuff in here that can kill you". Healer would get frustrated and pull ahead and I'd just gap close, pop arm's length and bring them to the tank already slowed. I don't blame them tbh. Yes, SHB dungeons hit hard, but wall to wall is more than feasible with good cooldown use and an experienced healer. Not forgetting TBN, which has honestly carried me through cure/benefic/psychic spam healers who couldn't even handle small stuff. 1 -3 mobs at a time in level 70-80 dungeons is just not experimenting to push yourself or learn the limits of your class, outside of bad dps and healers or niche mechanics.

oh god what topic have you brought to this land.

[tdb]

On the other hand, if the tank and healer are not good, wall-to-wall pulling leveling dungeons can be really rough. A couple weeks ago (before the patch) I was leveling my GNB and got put into Holminster Switch. I was Lv71 though I forget what the other players were. Because I don't want to be that tank who does single pulls, I pulled the entire first section at once. We wiped. I saw the healer died before me so I went "Oops, did I lose aggro on something?" in the chat but got no response. I did the same pull again and this time we survived but barely. Then one of the other (I think a dps) said that I was pulling too much and we didn't have the damage for that sort of pulls. I agreed to do small pulls and the rest of the dungeon went without incident.

[SturmChurro]

I've seen plenty of tanks drop at multiple points in Holminster, it's not necessarily a good idea for the healer to force those pulls. If they actually can't handle it, the dungeon might end up taking longer.

[Dreamsoap]

I've seen plenty of tanks drop at multiple points in Holminster, it's not necessarily a good idea for the healer to force those pulls. If they actually can't handle it, the dungeon might end up taking longer.

In what world can a DRK only handle 3 at a time though? When I need to go slow, I take two packs. I told them to roll their cooldowns and save mana for TBN if they felt it necessary, yet they were intent on rebuffing any advice anyone gave them and insisted they knew how to tank. The mobs were dying pretty quick given the other dps was smn. I don't mind these arguments for lower level dungeons but in shadowbringer content you shouldn't be expecting people to handle you with kiddie gloves.

[Mixt]

So forcing a wipefest is the way to go then.

I have had that happen to me multiple times, i pulled as much as i felt was safe, the rest of the group wanted more, the extra mobs killed me and then went on to wipe us.

And then they throw a hissy fit when i call them out on it, even though it was their fault.

[Veis_Alveare]

in shadowbringer content you shouldn't be expecting people to handle you with kiddie gloves.

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