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    Edwin Li
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Archwizard View Post
    1. That would be wildly imbalanced. Not having any limitations on range OR cast-time means there is no reason for the job to ever stand still or skirt a PBAoE, which would give them ridiculous amounts of evasion.

    (particularly since SAM, GNB and RDM already have such an attack).
    Saying a Instant caster job being Imbalanced is like saying Bard and and Machinist is OP because they don't have to deal with Casting charge. When they make a job you have to also consider they taken into account the function of Mobility Range combat into the Job design which will also be considered for a Magic user based job that focus on all instant cast attacks.

    Also, SAM, GNB, and RDM have those attack as off-hand attacks. They are not the Primary focus of their actual combat style and are rarely used to a point I don't think certain amount of people even remember those skills exists since rarely players would use those skills when they are too far from the boss for melee combat. I am speaking about a Job that focus on such attacks as their Primary focus thus treating a Sword as a actual Range combat weapon through the use of Magic Slashes instead of it being separate attacks.

    RDM is not considered that because their Spells are made to use the Focus Orb that floats around and attach to the sword when they need to cast a spell and that 1 new skill they got is hardly even focused on a fully attack combo since it is only there for players to spend energy if they can't spend it on their melee combo. Though so far I have not seen many bother to use it since it is prefered to save that energy for the melee combo instead.


    But as I said everything now is uncertain since we are past 5.3 and by now they most likely already determined all new jobs and are just waiting to reveal it either after 5.4 or after 5.55. If lucky they may reveal 1 of the new jobs through the Main Story Quest in 5.4 or 5.5 like they did with Samurai Job back in 3.X era. It will be more lucky if we get a chance to play as that new Job during a 5.4, 5.5, or 5.55 Story instance using a set character skill list to get a glimps on what to expect from that job.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 08-19-2020 at 05:24 AM.

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    Narumi Akiudo
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Saying a Instant caster job being Imbalanced is like saying Bard and and Machinist is OP because they don't have to deal with Casting charge. When they make a job you have to also consider they taken into account the function of Mobility Range combat into the Job design which will also be considered for a Magic user based job that focus on all instant cast attacks
    while what you say here is true the problem with that is that it would force square to either admit that they are severely overtaxing the physical ranged as far as dps goes, something they right now try their hardest to ignore , OR they would need to balance it on the same level as the physical ranged, in that case literally no one would want to take this new "instant caster" instead of another caster that can deal 3-10% more dps while offering better support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiudo View Post
    while what you say here is true the problem with that is that it would force square to either admit that they are severely overtaxing the physical ranged as far as dps goes, something they right now try their hardest to ignore , OR they would need to balance it on the same level as the physical ranged, in that case literally no one would want to take this new "instant caster" instead of another caster that can deal 3-10% more dps while offering better support.
    Keep in mind not everyone play Jobs because they are Meta nor considered the best of the best.

    Balancing will always be #1 issue in any game because even if they manage to "balance" jobs properly someone will still find a way to make X or Y job considered OP and better than another job due to how they perform with that Job. Thus resulting in people once again complaing X or Y new Job is better because the way certain players play it can get a extra 3% to 10% DPS out of it because of either X or Y gear setup and etc.

    Heck for all we know this Instant Caster Job, berserker Job, or Geomancer Job may become the most Balanced Job in the game ever released and become the apex of how a Job should be designed as a DPS but people will still end up complain it is "not balanced" and find reasons why they consider it Meta, OP, or weak.

    It is the nature of certain people, but from my experience the majority, to focus more on the negative side to a point they may completely ignore the positive side of things after all.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 08-19-2020 at 06:11 AM.