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  1. #341
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    Tal Young
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    With the mention of
    Magitek job stones, the Populares being discredited and potentially driven out of Garlemald, and the possible Garlean focus next expansion, I think we could get two Magitek based jobs.

    A Chemist, or Chemist-like, healer job could certainly fit.

    The other job, if we even get two, would definitely be a DPS. Given the flexibility of magitek, it could theoretically be just about anything and fit any of the 3 DPS sub-types.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 08-17-2020 at 07:04 PM.

  2. #342
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    Jenity Dionysus
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    Archer Lv 80

    Predictions for job(s) in the next expansion?

    Any combination of the following:
    • Gaia's Time Mage Job
    • Chemist/Apothecary
    • Necromancer
    • Geomancer
    • Beastmaster
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  3. #343
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    Ceasaria Pheonixia
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    Apothecary, a very nice teasing for the next healer.
    Thanks SE (at last) for some news !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    All I want is one expansion where they reanalyze the jobs and make massive adjustments to unhomogenize them. This is Final Fantasy 14 not Club penguin I dont wish for jobs that only have 5 buttons going for them or play exactly the same as 2/3 other jobs.
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    This current card system needs to be unwritten, destroyed and never returned.

  4. #344
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hank_Hotspur View Post
    I think people are reading too much into the chemist idea from the miqo'te girl. I saw her story as addressing the issue that 5.2 ended with where all these people who heard the voice of Hydaelyn call them leaving their previous positions to become adventuring warriors of light. There was the fear that the fragile society of Norvrandt would break down if all the guards, merchants, doctors, workers, and artisans decided to run around dungeons and defeat evildoers instead of contributing to a world they sought to protect.

    However, with her we get a different "warrior of light" who isn't running around whacking people with a sword but instead traveling around and using the knowledge of medicines from the Crystarium to assist the people of the world, adding to the running theme of getting society back on its feet that we saw with the changes in Eulmore and even now the Dwarf quest line.

    I think seeing that as "she's going to run around killing bad guys with tinctures and syringes and heal her adventuring party" seems to be losing the point of it.

    I mean, chemist is still a likely job for a future expansion, but I think this subplot will end up being as much a "hint" to it as was the reveal trailer for Stormblood "hinting" at dancers when people saw the "mysterious new blonde woman" moving around in a red dress.
    Chemist also fits with the idea of going to Garlemald though, since they're unable to use magic. It just makes sense, if Garlemald is the next location that Chemist could be a good fit. I think Rune Knight is the second. Rune Knight would be a perfect update for someone that was disappointed with their character development in ShB.
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  5. #345
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonKeyh View Post
    Chemist also fits with the idea of going to Garlemald though, since they're unable to use magic. It just makes sense, if Garlemald is the next location that Chemist could be a good fit. I think Rune Knight is the second. Rune Knight would be a perfect update for someone that was disappointed with their character development in ShB.
    While I agree with chemist didn’t they just confirm in an interview that Garlemald is not next?

    I still cannot see them adding a 5th melee or 5th tank (depending on how you would place Rune Knight) while casters and physical ranged have only 3.

    Wouldn’t the pattern or like just looking at what we have, say caster would be the next dps since we just got dancer?

    Maybe they’ll finally give Alph a job with chemist
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  6. #346
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    Quote Originally Posted by BasicBlake View Post
    While I agree with chemist didn’t they just confirm in an interview that Garlemald is not next?

    I still cannot see them adding a 5th melee or 5th tank (depending on how you would place Rune Knight) while casters and physical ranged have only 3.

    Wouldn’t the pattern or like just looking at what we have, say caster would be the next dps since we just got dancer?

    Maybe they’ll finally give Alph a job with chemist
    If things are done right the Rune Knight may end up as a Range Caster Class. Maybe the first Caster class that focus on pure instant cast spells from range by swinging their swords to create elemental Slash Wave attacks

    No Red Mage does not count as a Pure Instance cast spells Caster because they still need to go through the process of Casting spell 1 before instant cast spell 2.
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  7. #347
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    If things are done right the Rune Knight may end up as a Range Caster Class. Maybe the first Caster class that focus on pure instant cast spells from range by swinging their swords to create elemental Slash Wave attacks

    No Red Mage does not count as a Pure Instance cast spells Caster because they still need to go through the process of Casting spell 1 before instant cast spell 2.
    Sir you want a second enchanted sword caster...

    Let that sink in

    There is no way we would get Rune Knight Caster over something like Geomancer
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  8. #348
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    Quote Originally Posted by BasicBlake View Post
    Sir you want a second enchanted sword caster...

    Let that sink in

    There is no way we would get Rune Knight Caster over something like Geomancer
    This is a guessing discussion not a 100% certain they will release X or Y discussion.

    All possibility are open until they officially announced the new Jobs.

    Heck if they wanted to they can release Berserker DPS job and slap on a lore why Warrior and Berserker are different from each other despite both focus on using Rage as their powers just like they did with Garlean Gunblades and Gunbreaker Job's weapon lore.
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  9. #349
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    If things are done right the Rune Knight may end up as a Range Caster Class. Maybe the first Caster class that focus on pure instant cast spells from range by swinging their swords to create elemental Slash Wave attacks

    No Red Mage does not count as a Pure Instance cast spells Caster because they still need to go through the process of Casting spell 1 before instant cast spell 2.
    1. That would be wildly imbalanced. Not having any limitations on range OR cast-time means there is no reason for the job to ever stand still or skirt a PBAoE, which would give them ridiculous amounts of evasion.

    2. A Rune Knight, Spellblade, Mystic Knight, etc. job has historically always been a Physically-oriented job with an enchanted weapon, inflicting magical debuffs as a function of its melee attacks. At best we would see an implementation with full melee combos leading into instant spells, but not a ranged job based around firing energy waves from their sword (particularly since SAM, GNB and RDM already have such an attack). As with RDM, if they're gonna give a job a sword, at some point it's gonna be used for stabbing someone or else they could have just given them a gun instead, and RDM already has the range-into-melee-burst rotation covered.

    2a. ... and much as I might like to see a Spellblade, I have no reason to expect a melee job before we have a fourth healer, physical ranged, and full-caster.
    2b. ... the exception being they implement a new role like "Magical Melee DPS", or shift NIN over to a physical ranged job, in order to make room for a melee. Neither of which I find likely any time soon, since the former would be a nightmare to balance and the latter is kinda late.

    3. There are still plenty of untapped options for actual casters (hell, we have SMN pulling double-duty as the DoT caster and only Pet job, and it does precisely neither of those to anyone's satisfaction), without dipping into implementing jobs entirely outside of the role. GEO happens to be the front runner in that category.
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    Last edited by Archwizard; 08-19-2020 at 05:02 AM.

  10. #350
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archwizard View Post
    1. That would be wildly imbalanced. Not having any limitations on range OR cast-time means there is no reason for the job to ever stand still or skirt a PBAoE, which would give them ridiculous amounts of evasion.

    (particularly since SAM, GNB and RDM already have such an attack).
    Saying a Instant caster job being Imbalanced is like saying Bard and and Machinist is OP because they don't have to deal with Casting charge. When they make a job you have to also consider they taken into account the function of Mobility Range combat into the Job design which will also be considered for a Magic user based job that focus on all instant cast attacks.

    Also, SAM, GNB, and RDM have those attack as off-hand attacks. They are not the Primary focus of their actual combat style and are rarely used to a point I don't think certain amount of people even remember those skills exists since rarely players would use those skills when they are too far from the boss for melee combat. I am speaking about a Job that focus on such attacks as their Primary focus thus treating a Sword as a actual Range combat weapon through the use of Magic Slashes instead of it being separate attacks.

    RDM is not considered that because their Spells are made to use the Focus Orb that floats around and attach to the sword when they need to cast a spell and that 1 new skill they got is hardly even focused on a fully attack combo since it is only there for players to spend energy if they can't spend it on their melee combo. Though so far I have not seen many bother to use it since it is prefered to save that energy for the melee combo instead.


    But as I said everything now is uncertain since we are past 5.3 and by now they most likely already determined all new jobs and are just waiting to reveal it either after 5.4 or after 5.55. If lucky they may reveal 1 of the new jobs through the Main Story Quest in 5.4 or 5.5 like they did with Samurai Job back in 3.X era. It will be more lucky if we get a chance to play as that new Job during a 5.4, 5.5, or 5.55 Story instance using a set character skill list to get a glimps on what to expect from that job.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 08-19-2020 at 05:24 AM.

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