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  1. #171
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    Tlamila's Avatar
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    Yeah, I hate QTE.
    Even leaving aside the disability issues, which are no joke, it's absolutely not fun, it ruins the flow of the fight and it's braindead. The faster finger in the west sounds like something that could fit porn better than videogames.
    And now I also feel bad cause when we wiped twice due to that mechanic I thought "come on, just how hard can it be to smash a button, how are people even failing this??" without thinking of the people who physically can't do it.
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  2. #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhunuial View Post
    I know they did hire an accessibility consultant in January this year and an entire team in last May. But I wouldn't be able to say if they were consulted on this issue. I know I have written to the Accessibility team regarding this issue, but I'm sure if more people wrote it would support and strengthen our cause. So here is the link to contact them.
    I sent them a message with a detailed description of this problem, thank you for your aspiration!
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  3. #173
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    Ishild Hawke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    Yeah, I hate QTE.
    Even leaving aside the disability issues, which are no joke, it's absolutely not fun, it ruins the flow of the fight and it's braindead. The faster finger in the west sounds like something that could fit porn better than videogames.
    And now I also feel bad cause when we wiped twice due to that mechanic I thought "come on, just how hard can it be to smash a button, how are people even failing this??" without thinking of the people who physically can't do it.
    That's why I'm bringing it to attention here. People all too often forget there could be a myriad reasons for failing such a mechanic. Most people, thank goodness, are healthy and don't have to think about how disabilities affect their lives or trying to find ways around those disabilities. But that does mean people all too often also think if something it easy for them it is easy for other people. In this game, you are not able to see people's disabilities. Most of the time in real life you also can't tell if someone is disabled when you encounter them. I look completely normal, but I am disabled.

    So when someone fails the mechanic and keeps on wiping the party, be kind and supportive. There are human beings behind the character and you don't know why they're failing. And that's not aimed at you in particular, but everyone in general. I hope you don't take it as something that was aimed at you.

    I do hope a workaround or adjustments can be made to the mechanic, so everyone will be able to pass it and continue the story.
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    Last edited by Lhunuial; 08-17-2020 at 04:58 PM.

  4. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhunuial View Post
    That's why I'm bringing it to attention here. People all too often forget there could be a myriad reasons for failing such a mechanic. Most people, thank goodness, are healthy and don't have to think about how disabilities affect their lives or trying to find ways around those disabilities. But that does mean people all too often also think if something it easy for them it is easy for other people. In this game, you are not able to see people's disabilities. Most of the time in real life you also can't tell if someone is disabled when you encounter them. I look completely normal, but I am disabled.

    So when someone fails the mechanic and keeps on wiping the party, be kind and supportive. There are human beings behind the character and you don't know why they're failing.

    I do hope a workaround or adjustments can be made to the mechanic, so everyone will be able to pass it and continue the story.
    I really hope that the SE will pay attention to this problem and your efforts will not be in vain!
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  5. #175
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    Rasler_Heios's Avatar
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    I thought the reason why it is "One person fails, therefore wipe" for this particular active time event is because all the players need to be standing literally on the succeeding scene... it doesn't make sense to be knocked out for that scene...
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    "Is adventuring not supposed to be glorious? I thought it was supposed to be glorious." - Vath Deftarm, Dravanian Hinterlands, An Acquired Taste
    "That's a fine accomplishment lad. Young and lusty as you are, no doubt you'll achieve much and more in the years to come. I look forward to hearin' all your deeds." - Jonathas, Master of the Rolls, Old Gridania

  6. #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasler_Heios View Post
    I thought the reason why it is "One person fails, therefore wipe" for this particular active time event is because all the players need to be standing literally on the succeeding scene... it doesn't make sense to be knocked out for that scene...
    That makes sence to a degree. But then, if you want everyone to succeed, why make such a disaster out of QTE.
    Also, E8 cutscene don't have that problem. Noted we're not tecnically "standing" in there, being frozen in ice and such, but still.
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    "The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."
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  7. #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatfright View Post
    That makes sence to a degree. But then, if you want everyone to succeed, why make such a disaster out of QTE.
    Also, E8 cutscene don't have that problem. Noted we're not tecnically "standing" in there, being frozen in ice and such, but still.
    Yes, they could have made it easier to achieve if they will implement a "One person fails, therefore wipe" mechanic. I'm just saying why I think it is there.
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    "Is adventuring not supposed to be glorious? I thought it was supposed to be glorious." - Vath Deftarm, Dravanian Hinterlands, An Acquired Taste
    "That's a fine accomplishment lad. Young and lusty as you are, no doubt you'll achieve much and more in the years to come. I look forward to hearin' all your deeds." - Jonathas, Master of the Rolls, Old Gridania

  8. #178
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasler_Heios View Post
    Yes, they could have made it easier to achieve if they will implement a "One person fails, therefore wipe" mechanic. I'm just saying why I think it is there.
    I see your point and understand it, I do. No arguing here. Just adding some thoughts about how that's a somewhat silly decision on SE side.
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    "The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."
    J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

  9. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhunuial View Post
    I know they did hire an accessibility consultant in January this year and an entire team in last May. But I wouldn't be able to say if they were consulted on this issue. I know I have written to the Accessibility team regarding this issue, but I'm sure if more people wrote it would support and strengthen our cause. So here is the link to contact them.
    I also wrote a report. Hope it will help to solve the problem.
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  10. #180
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    See, these are the same people that wanted the FFXV event to be nerfed because they sucked so bad at it, instead of you know... getting good? Like, you're supposed to fail a few times at something before you get it eventually. Expecting to pass everything in one go is literally a child's way of looking at the world. Perhaps some of you are Elidibus in disguise.

    Like...just pick two buttons on your controller to mash alternating between them, or two keys with two different fingers.

    Legit how are you failing this?

    but no, just nerf everything because you failed and you don't like that you didn't win right away and it wasn't easy as pie.

    The argument of "It's not interesting" is more compelling, I can reason with that. But anyone who can't do this must be like 60 years old with arthritis or something.

    How did y'all play games before that had this kind of thing? Did you just give up and not do it? lol.
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