RIP Male Viera

[CrispyUnicycle]

don’t worry goobers i made another thread, go check it out

[Amnmaat]

I don't think the thread being removed has any bearing on whether they'll add male viera at any point--if the thread got off topic and devolved into arguments, that's probably why it was removed. It doesn't mean that they aren't considering still adding them.

I'm pretty sure the (female) Viera request thread had influence on them adding Viera. And the threads that came before that in 2012-2014.

[Crushnight]

Really makes you wonder what the tipping point was that caused the deletion.

Attack the devs (early part of the thread) go right ahead the worst is your stuff gets deleted not the thread that housed it briefly

Open homophobia again go right ahead only your stuff will be deleted and associated stuff with the comments, thread remains fine.

Circle arguments are fine as they abide by the rules of being on topic and relevant to ffxiv doesn't matter if same posters they ain't breaking no rules, thread should be fine.

Hostility and trolling, posts get deleted not a thread especially one that size.


All in all it actually does not look good on the moderation team here, it was a big thread, it had the most likes of any thread to ever and probably will ever appear on here, not even female Viera threads got that high, it had some of the worst things but also some really nice things to come into it yet it was there for over a year, new people occasionally popped in to support it as well or leave a message.

Nothing in that thread in the last week was anywhere near as bad as the early parts did with people attacking the devs, the open homophobia(using actual slurs and discrimatory behaviour not a troll who is skirting the line) that a certain poster showed that got me my only ever temp ban from forums because I rightly blew up at them, for the moderators to take action just now is concerning. This is one of the times they need to be clear why such a thing was taken down after so long even if it is just to the OP of the thread.

[Controller]

Really makes you wonder what the tipping point was that caused the deletion.

Attack the devs (early part of the thread) go right ahead the worst is your stuff gets deleted not the thread that housed it briefly

Open homophobia again go right ahead only your stuff will be deleted and associated stuff with the comments, thread remains fine.

Circle arguments are fine as they abide by the rules of being on topic and relevant to ffxiv doesn't matter if same posters they ain't breaking no rules, thread should be fine.

Hostility and trolling, posts get deleted not a thread especially one that size.


All in all it actually does not look good on the moderation team here, it was a big thread, it had the most likes of any thread to ever and probably will ever appear on here, not even female Viera threads got that high, it had some of the worst things but also some really nice things to come into it yet it was there for over a year, new people occasionally popped in to support it as well or leave a message.

Nothing in that thread in the last week was anywhere near as bad as the early parts did with people attacking the devs, the open homophobia(using actual slurs and discrimatory behaviour not a troll who is skirting the line) that a certain poster showed that got me my only ever temp ban from forums because I rightly blew up at them, for the moderators to take action just now is concerning. This is one of the times they need to be clear why such a thing was taken down after so long even if it is just to the OP of the thread.

Why do they need to say anything? Just so people can cry at them more? It was most likely a long time coming with how people can get on topics like these. IMHO they need to delete MORE.

[Nestama]

Thread was completely deleted.
You don't just delete a thread with over 1800 likes for no reason
We're just not getting them, nor female Hrothgar.

Well, I expect this next expansion to be full of new things beyond the usual MSQ and 2 new jobs.

That's some silly doom and gloom right here. Also the female Hrothgar request thread still exists o:
Thread got deleted for a different reason (dunno what because I already said my piece more than enough times in there). Probably similar reasons to why that one "casualism" or whatever it was called thread was deleted. Either got too off topic, people were flinging insults left and right, etc etc.

Yoshi-P is aware people want the missing genders. He said his piece and won't need to say anything until hints regarding them come along (such as the Hrothgar Queen. I would not be surprised if she were to appear near the end of the Bozja storyline).

[Kolsykol]

I dunno why it was deleted, I do see a lot of people acting like jerks about it tho from all kinds of directions.

What bothers me the most are dismissive attitudes, basically '' I don't care about this so you're wrong for caring about it ''. It's such a narcissistic mentality but also very widespread.
It's the same when people talk about sexualized or non-sexualized options, you always get people going all like '' omfg who gives a shit ''.
Like clearly people do otherwise they wouldn't talk and make threads about it...
And so long as they're not being judgemental jerks and douchey about it or arguing that other people should lose their options then I don't see the problem.
I dunno why people act like self-appointed gatekeepers of what people should and shouldn't care about, if anything it makes them look more pathetic imo.
Someone cares about something and then someone who claims that it doesn't matter and that they don't care come in and argue for hours on end about how it doesn't matter lol, they don't see the irony in that and how it makes them worse?

The second thing that bothers me are attacks on the devs, I see this a lot with that dumb meme people spread around about '' female monsters vs male monsters '' where there's orcs, trolls etc and then just a woman in different colors bellow.
It's like there's no nuance at all they just want to spam memes and never be questioned or actually think about anything and yet they're very insistent on pretending like they're making an actual point.
I mean there is a point.
In some cases....
But it makes no sense with Hrothgar and Viera because they're not even the same race and there is an actual reason and explanation behind why it happened like it happened.
And it wasn't because the devs didn't want female Hrothgar and Male Viera ( I've seen a lot of people who actually think they're the same race because of that meme too ).
Some people just have this lazy mentality that because something might be true in one case it's always true and they use that to attack the developers and act like there's some conspiracy at work.

I just think that there's a lot of people that do genuinely care about it and also a lot of people who are just looking to argue or think that they're making some progressive point when it doesn't even apply to this particular case but they just use it to fish for likes ( and retweets on Twitter ).
When you put them altogether in the same thread it's a recipe for disaster.

[ForteNightshade]

It may not necessarily be deleted but simply moved. Threads that garner a big enough support have been moved in the past so the dev team can more easily review them. Obviously, we'll never know for certain. Even if it was deleted, I think they know how much Male Viera are in demand by this point.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

In all honesty, it was a long time coming. That thread was real ugly most of the time.

[Amnmaat]

That's some silly doom and gloom right here. Also the female Hrothgar request thread still exists o:
Thread got deleted for a different reason

I like how you say it got deleted for a different reason as if you actually know it wasn't because they're not adding them. Let me guess, your friend's uncle who works at nintendo who knows yoship told you?

[SturmChurro]

A mod probably was like, "I'm deleting the same arguments over and over..", "SCREW IT" *Deletes thread*. Too much work, and not like they would ever post a warning in the thread, or lock a thread. God forbid.