RIP Male Viera

[Nestama]

No it's not, you don't back it up with anything.

Neither do you.
Female Hrothgar thread still exists btw

It's up to Naoki Yoshida to state it, so you cannot say that my reasoning is less valid than yours, specially when you don't provide any evidence to say so.

Correct. That's up to him to say.
Female Hrothgar thread still exists btw

Could be, but unlike you I'm not going to tell you that's not the reason why.

It's a better reason to believe than something ridiculous as "thread deleted = missing genders not happening confirmed."
The reason why the Viera thread wasn't deleted (the one before they were officially announced) is because the only drama in there was usually me, or others with similar feelings, saying Viera were just humans with rabbit ears, didn't bring anything new to the table, etc (totally called the ears being an issue). Otherwise people were always in agreement on them... unless they were childlike in appearance. That's usually where people were divided. It wasn't a drama pit like the male Viera thread was.
Female Hrothgar thread still exists btw

This also applies to the female Hrothgar thread and why that still exists. It's not a drama pit, as people are mostly in agreement with how they should look (not Miqo'te 2.0, beast head, etc)

[JohnSpawnVFX]

No it's not, you don't back it up with anything.

It's up to Naoki Yoshida to state it, so you cannot say that my reasoning is less valid than yours, specially when you don't provide any evidence to say so.


Could be, but unlike you I'm not going to tell you that's not the reason why.

Except you're equating a deletion of a forum thread to a statement from Naoki Yoshida. If Yoshi hasn't said anything (yet or otherwise) your reasoning isn't valid.

[Kolsykol]

I dunno why it was deleted, I do see a lot of people acting like jerks about it tho from all kinds of directions.

What bothers me the most are dismissive attitudes, basically '' I don't care about this so you're wrong for caring about it ''. It's such a narcissistic mentality but also very widespread.
It's the same when people talk about sexualized or non-sexualized options, you always get people going all like '' omfg who gives a shit ''.
Like clearly people do otherwise they wouldn't talk and make threads about it...
And so long as they're not being judgemental jerks and douchey about it or arguing that other people should lose their options then I don't see the problem.
I dunno why people act like self-appointed gatekeepers of what people should and shouldn't care about, if anything it makes them look more pathetic imo.
Someone cares about something and then someone who claims that it doesn't matter and that they don't care come in and argue for hours on end about how it doesn't matter lol, they don't see the irony in that and how it makes them worse?

The second thing that bothers me are attacks on the devs, I see this a lot with that dumb meme people spread around about '' female monsters vs male monsters '' where there's orcs, trolls etc and then just a woman in different colors bellow.
It's like there's no nuance at all they just want to spam memes and never be questioned or actually think about anything and yet they're very insistent on pretending like they're making an actual point.
I mean there is a point.
In some cases....
But it makes no sense with Hrothgar and Viera because they're not even the same race and there is an actual reason and explanation behind why it happened like it happened.
And it wasn't because the devs didn't want female Hrothgar and Male Viera ( I've seen a lot of people who actually think they're the same race because of that meme too ).
Some people just have this lazy mentality that because something might be true in one case it's always true and they use that to attack the developers and act like there's some conspiracy at work.

I just think that there's a lot of people that do genuinely care about it and also a lot of people who are just looking to argue or think that they're making some progressive point when it doesn't even apply to this particular case but they just use it to fish for likes ( and retweets on Twitter ).
When you put them altogether in the same thread it's a recipe for disaster.

[ForteNightshade]

It may not necessarily be deleted but simply moved. Threads that garner a big enough support have been moved in the past so the dev team can more easily review them. Obviously, we'll never know for certain. Even if it was deleted, I think they know how much Male Viera are in demand by this point.

[Vahlnir]

It may not necessarily be deleted but simply moved. Threads that garner a big enough support have been moved in the past so the dev team can more easily review them. Obviously, we'll never know for certain. Even if it was deleted, I think they know how much Male Viera are in demand by this point.

If it was moved it was clearly moved to a more private setting. As far as I can tell it is nowhere to be found, and my most recent posts in that thread no longer exist in my profile. I think people made their point and more though so the thread's purpose had been accomplished a few hundred pages in. Time to wait and see what happens now.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

If it was moved it was clearly moved to a more private setting. As far as I can tell it is nowhere to be found, and my most recent posts in that thread no longer exist in my profile. I think people made their point and more though so the thread's purpose had been accomplished a few hundred pages in. Time to wait and see what happens now.

The question is, do we have the patience and discipline to even wait?

[Vahlnir]

The question is, do we have the patience and discipline to even wait?

I mean, people will have to wait as long as SE wants them to. So...doesn't really matter if they have the patience or discipline. It simply is what it is.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

In all honesty, it was a long time coming. That thread was real ugly most of the time.

[SturmChurro]

A mod probably was like, "I'm deleting the same arguments over and over..", "SCREW IT" *Deletes thread*. Too much work, and not like they would ever post a warning in the thread, or lock a thread. God forbid.

[Rasler_Heios]

I would play a male viera, if ever it gets implemented, so long as it is not diminutive in form when compared to the female viera.