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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    No it's not, you don't back it up with anything.
    Neither do you.
    Female Hrothgar thread still exists btw

    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    It's up to Naoki Yoshida to state it, so you cannot say that my reasoning is less valid than yours, specially when you don't provide any evidence to say so.
    Correct. That's up to him to say.
    Female Hrothgar thread still exists btw

    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Could be, but unlike you I'm not going to tell you that's not the reason why.
    It's a better reason to believe than something ridiculous as "thread deleted = missing genders not happening confirmed."
    The reason why the Viera thread wasn't deleted (the one before they were officially announced) is because the only drama in there was usually me, or others with similar feelings, saying Viera were just humans with rabbit ears, didn't bring anything new to the table, etc (totally called the ears being an issue). Otherwise people were always in agreement on them... unless they were childlike in appearance. That's usually where people were divided. It wasn't a drama pit like the male Viera thread was.
    Female Hrothgar thread still exists btw

    This also applies to the female Hrothgar thread and why that still exists. It's not a drama pit, as people are mostly in agreement with how they should look (not Miqo'te 2.0, beast head, etc)
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    Mmmm, look at all these comments. Politics at its finest.

    Regardless of whatever policy this forum holds over its threads, I generally don't approve of deleting a thread that garnered nearly 5x the amount of support over the original viera thread, and is the most liked post in the history of these forums. Despite its bads, it had a lot of pros. I don't think I've seen the community rise up in such determination for something they felt passionate about. Whether its against male viera, for it, ambivalent, general genderlocks, discussion of SE resource management, I mean the topic of male viera spanned upon countless topics that made some of us question just what SE does with their time and money and also made us questions ourselves on what we truly wanted out of this game. Despite the bad, it was a thread that made me realize what I truly was looking for when it came to character customization.

    Prune what isn't conducive, lock the thread. But to outright delete it ? Well, let's just hope they're moving the thread. If not, such a mild censor is quite a look for SE.
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    To be fair, the moderators did go into the thread periodically in order to clean it up. From time to time, I saw both posts and entire pages vanish due to pruning. I imagine it reached a point where it became too much of a burden to deal with - especially with circular arguments and certain posters repeatedly pushing for a design direction that had already been ruled out by Yoshi-P.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    No it's not, you don't back it up with anything.

    It's up to Naoki Yoshida to state it, so you cannot say that my reasoning is less valid than yours, specially when you don't provide any evidence to say so.


    Could be, but unlike you I'm not going to tell you that's not the reason why.
    Except you're equating a deletion of a forum thread to a statement from Naoki Yoshida. If Yoshi hasn't said anything (yet or otherwise) your reasoning isn't valid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirusOnline View Post
    Mmmm, look at all these comments. Politics at its finest.

    Regardless of whatever policy this forum holds over its threads, I generally don't approve of deleting a thread that garnered nearly 5x the amount of support over the original viera thread, and is the most liked post in the history of these forums. Despite its bads, it had a lot of pros. I don't think I've seen the community rise up in such determination for something they felt passionate about. Whether its against male viera, for it, ambivalent, general genderlocks, discussion of SE resource management, I mean the topic of male viera spanned upon countless topics that made some of us question just what SE does with their time and money and also made us questions ourselves on what we truly wanted out of this game. Despite the bad, it was a thread that made me realize what I truly was looking for when it came to character customization.

    Prune what isn't conducive, lock the thread. But to outright delete it ? Well, let's just hope they're moving the thread. If not, such a mild censor is quite a look for SE.
    They did clean the thread.... too many times. If people don't want threads deleted then they shouldn't go off on deep ends with insults and everything else that got it canned. It's fine to disagree but some of the stuff in that thread was .... look M.Bison and Eggman would've questioned it.
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    There is not some anti male-viera agenda at play.

    This forum is not moderated by SE, but a third party marketing firm and if you guys are arguing politics in a cat-girl anime roleplaying game forum board, don't be suprised if some poor intern at said firm gets tired of deleting all your political rants and decides to simply delete the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Except you're equating a deletion of a forum thread to a statement from Naoki Yoshida. If Yoshi hasn't said anything (yet or otherwise) your reasoning isn't valid.
    I never equated it to a statement from Naoki Yoshida. So I don't know what orifice you're pulling that from.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Neither do you.
    Female Hrothgar thread still exists btw
    You and I both know that the backlash about the missing genders wasn't about female Hrothgar, it added to the backlash but by the likes alone you'll notice the face of the missing genders request was Male Viera, not female hrothgar.

    It's a better reason to believe than something ridiculous as "thread deleted = missing genders not happening confirmed."
    No it's not, just because you say so doesn't make it so.

    The reason why the Viera thread wasn't deleted (the one before they were officially announced) is because the only drama in there was usually me, or others with similar feelings, saying Viera were just humans with rabbit ears, didn't bring anything new to the table, etc (totally called the ears being an issue). Otherwise people were always in agreement on them... unless they were childlike in appearance. That's usually where people were divided. It wasn't a drama pit like the male Viera thread was.
    Female Hrothgar thread still exists btw
    The level of drama you created there was on the same level as the Male Viera thread.

    This also applies to the female Hrothgar thread and why that still exists. It's not a drama pit, as people are mostly in agreement with how they should look (not Miqo'te 2.0, beast head, etc)
    You're not a moderator to quantify anything as far as it pertains to the reasons behind this move. It could be many factors which you are not privy to.
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    Last edited by Amnmaat; 08-17-2020 at 06:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    You're not a moderator to quantify anything as far as it pertains to the reasons behind this move. It could be many factors which you are not privy to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    I like how you say it got deleted for a different reason as if you actually know it wasn't because they're not adding them. Let me guess, your friend's uncle who works at nintendo who knows yoship told you?
    You're not a moderator to quantify anything as far as it pertains to the reasons behind this move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    You're not a moderator to quantify anything as far as it pertains to the reasons behind this move.
    I don't know where the heck you're getting this idea that I'm doing as you're alluding to. Again, pulling things out of your orifices doesn't make it something that I said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    -.
    Dude, its not worth it.
    The conversation isn't gonna go anywhere, all you are doing is helping artificially inflate a thread.
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