Hinting at New Jobs? [ Small Spoilers for Patch 5.3 ]

[BasicBlake]

Blizzard Entertainment is the most popular Chinese Game maker in China. Diablo 3 & World of Warcraft disagree with what you said.

Disagree about what? The Chinese WoW game experience is very different from the rest of the world. No Corpses or Bones are shown anywhere in the world. Where you would normally see bones/piles of bones/corpses they get to see stuff like bags of grain. Even the Undead race are altered so that they aren't seen as corpses walking around. xxvaynexx is right.

[Gothicshark]

Disagree about what? ...xxvaynexx is right.

Not being able to have Necromancer. Since Diablo has Necromancer, and WOW has Death knight, and has 2 death-themed expansions. So even if the Chinese game has different art, Death themes are not a problem, so you are both wrong.

[BasicBlake]

Not being able to have Necromancer. Since Diablo has Necromancer, and WOW has Death knight, and has 2 death-themed expansions. So even if the Chinese game has different art, Death themes are not a problem, so you are both wrong.

Good thing we aren’t playing a Blizzard game then. They aren’t gonna make Necromancer a good guy in this game.

Every class introduced to this game has been done from a good guy or benevolent standpoint in SOME way. This is what.... our third Necromancer we’ve had to kill because they are evil?

This isn’t some edgy game, at the end of the day it’s a Final Fantasy.

[SomeRandomHuman]

Good thing we aren’t playing a Blizzard game then. They aren’t gonna make Necromancer a good guy in this game.

Every class introduced to this game has been done from a good guy or benevolent standpoint in SOME way. This is what.... our third Necromancer we’ve had to kill because they are evil?

This isn’t some edgy game, at the end of the day it’s a Final Fantasy.

We've had a few Necromancers we've fought yes but not all of them were evil. In fact none of them were outright evil.

Alaqa was the first necromancer themed npc we met and she was the king pin behind the HW WHM job quests. It was elaborated on that she wanted vengeance for the abuse her and her family suffered. She is more misguided than evil since she is shown willing to atone for her wrongdoings after her efforts are thwarted and she is freed from the veil of the blinding desire for revenge.

Nybeth and Edda are sort of along the same lines. The main difference is that Edda had just ran herself to insanity in her despair after Avere's death while Nybeth became consumed by his desire to revive his deceased lover and let his grasp on reality slip and spiraled out of control.

Lastly we have the Spectral Necromancer from the Gauntlet. She is first and foremost some type of WoL given by the fact she is even there. The most vile thing to her is calling her zombies her servants. From the angle she is given I choose to think that her zombies in the fight are ether the corpses of her fallen allies or the corpses of the Voeburt kingdom since her fight takes place in ill mheg. She is very much an example of "ends justify the means" but if the corpses are her fallen allies I find it a touch poetic that she leads them to continue their battle against the dark even after death.

[BasicBlake]

We've had a few Necromancers we've fought yes but not all of them were evil. In fact none of them were outright evil.

Alaqa was the first necromancer themed npc we met and she was the king pin behind the HW WHM job quests. It was elaborated on that she wanted vengeance for the abuse her and her family suffered. She is more misguided than evil since she is shown willing to atone for her wrongdoings after her efforts are thwarted and she is freed from the veil of the blinding desire for revenge.

Nybeth and Edda are sort of along the same lines. The main difference is that Edda had just ran herself to insanity in her despair after Avere's death while Nybeth became consumed by his desire to revive his deceased lover and let his grasp on reality slip and spiraled out of control.

Lastly we have the Spectral Necromancer from the Gauntlet. She is first and foremost some type of WoL given by the fact she is even there. The most vile thing to her is calling her zombies her servants. From the angle she is given I choose to think that her zombies in the fight are ether the corpses of her fallen allies or the corpses of the Voeburt kingdom since her fight takes place in ill mheg. She is very much an example of "ends justify the means" but if the corpses are her fallen allies I find it a touch poetic that she leads them to continue their battle against the dark even after death.

Wasn’t Alaqa’s whole thing that she was tainting aether, and the elementals of the Twelveswood got the white mages involved to stop it? What about Edda and the other necromancer wasn’t bad to you in Palace of the Dead? I mean we don’t strike a peace treaty with them, we killed them. And the boss in the new dungeon once again brings up how she is Tainted.

The chances of them putting a class in as the hero that is “tainted” are slim to none. Look at all the stuff we have done throughout the expansions so far, what do they all have in common? We’re the knight in shining armor, the good guy. They aren’t just going to flip it on it’s head and be like “we’re bad now ”. Peoples thoughts on this class are exactly the thoughts they had when “Warrior of Darkness” was brought up for ShB.

You just aren’t gonna be some tainted, corpse raising WoL side questing through some town and the locals just be cool about it from a story perspective.

I get that you all want to be edgy, but I don’t think this is the game that’s gonna let you express that.

[Sylve]

Wasn’t Alaqa’s whole thing that she was tainting aether, and the elementals of the Twelveswood got the white mages involved to stop it?

Having just reread the completed quest journal entries for that questline, The Taint itself is what was powering her necromancy with the reanimated Dragon.

The Necromancer boss calling herself tainted makes a good deal more sense if Necromancy itself is a corruption or 'tainting' of aether. During the questing, the knights you speak to describe Alaqa as "Reeking of death".
I don't see how SE could turn that it into a benevolent force for our PCs to use.
Black Magic doesn't damage the environment simply by existing. As with White Magic, It's the overuse of it that lead to their respective banning. We can be Black and White Mages because it's established in both the Black and White Mage job stories that we are capable of using the respective magic responsibly.
The Black Mage job quests even include a Conjurer from the Twelveswood sent to make you stop being a Black Mage, only for him to eventually understand that it can be a force for good in the right hands.

If Necromancy is powered by tainting aether, as hinted at in the WHM quests, There's no way to use that 'responsibly' since any usage of it in any capacity would lead to tainted aether not just in the area the necromancy was used in, but if it gets into a water source (Which is the entire beginning plot of the questline) it can spread far and wide, dealing untold damage to whatever ecosystem it gets into.