Hinting at New Jobs? [ Small Spoilers for Patch 5.3 ]

[Bashe]

If Beastmaster were to become a limited class, this is what I would like to see:

• Pet summoning class that allows your pet to tank.
• Exclusive outdoor map for Blue Mages and Beastmasters.
• Populated with monsters that Beastmasters can use to add to their collection of summonable monsters and for Blue Mages to learn abilities from.
• BIGGEST BENEFIT: Beastmasters can track down hunt targets from older expansions on this special map, this would allow players a way to gain achievement progress on S and A Rank hunts that are impossible to get these days due to the fact that they are destroyed so quickly on public maps.

[Ilenya]

If Beastmaster were to become a limited class, this is what I would like to see:

Azureka? Azure-Eureka?

That'd actually be pretty neat, though, if there was time to do it. A place specializing in the Limited Classes. Unlikely, but neat.

[SomeRandomHuman]

Good thing we aren’t playing a Blizzard game then. They aren’t gonna make Necromancer a good guy in this game.

Every class introduced to this game has been done from a good guy or benevolent standpoint in SOME way. This is what.... our third Necromancer we’ve had to kill because they are evil?

This isn’t some edgy game, at the end of the day it’s a Final Fantasy.

We've had a few Necromancers we've fought yes but not all of them were evil. In fact none of them were outright evil.

Alaqa was the first necromancer themed npc we met and she was the king pin behind the HW WHM job quests. It was elaborated on that she wanted vengeance for the abuse her and her family suffered. She is more misguided than evil since she is shown willing to atone for her wrongdoings after her efforts are thwarted and she is freed from the veil of the blinding desire for revenge.

Nybeth and Edda are sort of along the same lines. The main difference is that Edda had just ran herself to insanity in her despair after Avere's death while Nybeth became consumed by his desire to revive his deceased lover and let his grasp on reality slip and spiraled out of control.

Lastly we have the Spectral Necromancer from the Gauntlet. She is first and foremost some type of WoL given by the fact she is even there. The most vile thing to her is calling her zombies her servants. From the angle she is given I choose to think that her zombies in the fight are ether the corpses of her fallen allies or the corpses of the Voeburt kingdom since her fight takes place in ill mheg. She is very much an example of "ends justify the means" but if the corpses are her fallen allies I find it a touch poetic that she leads them to continue their battle against the dark even after death.

[Saix027]

I believe peopel way to overthink this, remember people goten hyped for Geomancer? AST quest?

[Crushnight]

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Is Alaqa still using her necromancy or is she a cnj in training with Sylphie and the little Padjal, the latter and I highly suspect that if she touches necromancy again she will be arrested quickly.

Nybeth - Padjali says "How can deeds so horrendous come from such a erstwhile place" , this isn't saying he was motivated by evil intentions but his actions were.

With these two alone Gridania appauls the use of necromancy.

Next have Hildabrand HW edition, Gigi says he'll bring back Quan and Cer goes without hesitation "I don't need to look in a book of the scriptures to know that resurrecting the dead is an act of heresy against Halone"

Halone is Ishgard's patron deity, Ishgard will not endorse you as a Necromancer at all.

Ala Mhigo is out due to the fact they gave Zenos an unmarked grave so no one would defile his body, if they respect an enemy's body they despise to try and prevent anyone doing anything to it safe to say Necromancy is out.

Ul'Dah look at Thaumatgy and Blm with the voidsent, it would be a very very thin line for Necromancer to tread but way more possible here than previous 3

Limsa we know how they honour the dead bit we have next to no clue how they feel about using the dead, Necromancer could exist here just under careful watch etc.

Doma is weird again could use Kami gave strength via the dead to oppress evil and people be upset about it but would understand but views on necromancy is nowhere here so who knows how it would be viewed.


As for the new girl Necromancer WoL, she constantly refers to herself as tainted, this could very well be that on her home world that she is reviled despite her wanting to do good. While such a take would be interesting for our character it is an impossibility for our character by the time you could access it.

If was going to be be a full Job for 6.0 it will start at lv70, what have we done by that time, Defeated Ultima Weapon, Nidhogg and Shinyru/Zenos, saved Limsa, Gridania, Ul'Dah, Ishgard, Ala Mhigo and Doma, we are most certainly a Hero by that point, now try telling the masses their hero likes to use dead bodies to do their good deeds and watch the riots happen to have our head on a stick.

The story of FFXIV, the main story, runs counter to Necromancer as a playable job, we are adorned by the masses despite also doing menial tasks for them(after awhile people do recognise who you are but ask anyway). Necromancer is a fantasy that cannot function without making it a non Necromancer in FFXIV's setting. It is a wish that will probably never get granted.

[Yencat]

Ul'Dah look at Thaumatgy and Blm with the voidsent, it would be a very very thin line for Necromancer to tread but way more possible here than previous 3

Ul'dahn thaumaturges also used a necromantic plague to wipe out Sil'dih and then lied about it and sealed the city to cover it up. It's definitely not looked upon favorably in the game.

[Crushnight]

Ul'dahn thaumaturges also used a necromantic plague to wipe out Sil'dih and then lied about it and sealed the city to cover it up. It's definitely not looked upon favorably in the game.

With Ul'Dah I get that they would publicly decry any form of Necromancy but possibly endorse it behind closed doors if furthered their goals, basically something as the WoL that cannot happen because we are so public when going about our business, hence the very thin line Necromancer would have to tread in Ul'Dah.

[GucciSan]

Necromancer doesn't really ring as a "Final Fantasy Job", but more like "a class in Final Fantasy". It may have been in V, but it was in a rerelease and not the original, so it could be argued that it's bonus content not true of the original vision. It's only ever reappeared under a villain's control and like everyone's said it would be too lore breaking for us to raise the dead. Yoshida even said the reason why we don't have playable classes like Thief was because it would be weird for us the heroes to have a "evil" class.

Necromancer has far too many different incarnations across so many different fantasy games that it wouldn't feel unique to the FF brand if it was added.

[Yencat]

With Ul'Dah I get that they would publicly decry any form of Necromancy but possibly endorse it behind closed doors if furthered their goals, basically something as the WoL that cannot happen because we are so public when going about our business, hence the very thin line Necromancer would have to tread in Ul'Dah.

Oh definitely, they did do it after all. But even they had enough sense to lie about it saying Sil'dih was raising the dead and intended to use the undead to invade Ul'dah and used that as a justification to declare war on them.

I can't see the WoL becoming a Necromancer unless they heavily re-tool it to leave out any raising of the dead (beyond resurrection of course), but then what's even the point.

[BasicBlake]

We've had a few Necromancers we've fought yes but not all of them were evil. In fact none of them were outright evil.

Alaqa was the first necromancer themed npc we met and she was the king pin behind the HW WHM job quests. It was elaborated on that she wanted vengeance for the abuse her and her family suffered. She is more misguided than evil since she is shown willing to atone for her wrongdoings after her efforts are thwarted and she is freed from the veil of the blinding desire for revenge.

Nybeth and Edda are sort of along the same lines. The main difference is that Edda had just ran herself to insanity in her despair after Avere's death while Nybeth became consumed by his desire to revive his deceased lover and let his grasp on reality slip and spiraled out of control.

Lastly we have the Spectral Necromancer from the Gauntlet. She is first and foremost some type of WoL given by the fact she is even there. The most vile thing to her is calling her zombies her servants. From the angle she is given I choose to think that her zombies in the fight are ether the corpses of her fallen allies or the corpses of the Voeburt kingdom since her fight takes place in ill mheg. She is very much an example of "ends justify the means" but if the corpses are her fallen allies I find it a touch poetic that she leads them to continue their battle against the dark even after death.

Wasn’t Alaqa’s whole thing that she was tainting aether, and the elementals of the Twelveswood got the white mages involved to stop it? What about Edda and the other necromancer wasn’t bad to you in Palace of the Dead? I mean we don’t strike a peace treaty with them, we killed them. And the boss in the new dungeon once again brings up how she is Tainted.

The chances of them putting a class in as the hero that is “tainted” are slim to none. Look at all the stuff we have done throughout the expansions so far, what do they all have in common? We’re the knight in shining armor, the good guy. They aren’t just going to flip it on it’s head and be like “we’re bad now ”. Peoples thoughts on this class are exactly the thoughts they had when “Warrior of Darkness” was brought up for ShB.

You just aren’t gonna be some tainted, corpse raising WoL side questing through some town and the locals just be cool about it from a story perspective.

I get that you all want to be edgy, but I don’t think this is the game that’s gonna let you express that.