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    yukiiyuki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    No one has denied it. You really love just tossing around insults, don't you?
    We never said it was our problem lol. You are mistaking people for caring about your sub a lot more than they actually do.
    "We". Who are you again? Dont remember when I asked your opinion.
    Also, the dude just told that leveling classes is a content, you can't and don't want to argue with someone like that, its pointless at base level, he can create "content" from the air, like telling that if you dont have 100 wins in PvP you still have something to do in the game. You know it's boring when triggering someone on forum is even more entertaining than that.
    And yeah, COVID is not a problem, but content design is.
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukiiyuki View Post
    "We". Who are you again? Dont remember when I asked your opinion.
    Do you even know how forums work?

    Quote Originally Posted by yukiiyuki View Post
    Also, the dude just told that leveling classes is a content, you can't and don't want to argue with someone like that, its pointless at base level, he can create "content" from the air, like telling that if you dont have 100 wins in PvP you still have something to do in the game. You know it's boring when triggering someone on forum is even more entertaining than that.
    It seems you're equating content you don't like with something not being content.

    Quote Originally Posted by yukiiyuki View Post
    you can't and don't want to argue with someone like that
    Yea I'll take your advice and stop talking to you.
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    JohnSpawnVFX's Avatar
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    Kaynneth Menad
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    Zodiark
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by yukiiyuki View Post
    "We". Who are you again? Dont remember when I asked your opinion.
    Also, the dude just told that leveling classes is a content, you can't and don't want to argue with someone like that, its pointless at base level, he can create "content" from the air, like telling that if you dont have 100 wins in PvP you still have something to do in the game. You know it's boring when triggering someone on forum is even more entertaining than that.
    And yeah, COVID is not a problem, but content design is.
    "I don't like XYZ content so I universally declare it non-content"

    Can you be a bigger meme though?
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    Guntank81's Avatar
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    Roega Maniac
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    Mateus
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by yukiiyuki View Post
    "We". Who are you again? Dont remember when I asked your opinion.
    Also, the dude just told that leveling classes is a content, you can't and don't want to argue with someone like that, its pointless at base level, he can create "content" from the air, like telling that if you dont have 100 wins in PvP you still have something to do in the game. You know it's boring when triggering someone on forum is even more entertaining than that.
    And yeah, COVID is not a problem, but content design is.
    hold on, are you trying to say here that leveling classes not content? Hard disagree on that, its not end game content sure, but its still content
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guntank81 View Post
    hold on, are you trying to say here that leveling classes not content? Hard disagree on that, its not end game content sure, but its still content
    Its content but not new content, its doing the same we've been doing for a year over and over which means that there are a lot of people who have already done it, besides the gear time restriction in savages and tomes makes gearing alt jobs to a decent ilv a hard task so in the end you do endgame content with only 1-3 jobs making the deffinition of "mindless grind" a reality most of the time (just see how many players lv up a job to 80 just to never touch it again). Leveling is something that can't keep a game alive by itself especially when below lv70 a lot of jobs feel crippled making the experience less enjoyable and when it comes to new content even before COVID pandemic this expansion has been very lacking compared to SB
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaxSw View Post
    Its content but not new content, its doing the same we've been doing for a year over and over which means that there are a lot of people who have already done it, besides the gear time restriction in savages and tomes makes gearing alt jobs to a decent ilv a hard task so in the end you do endgame content with only 1-3 jobs making the deffinition of "mindless grind" a reality most of the time (just see how many players lv up a job to 80 just to never touch it again). Leveling is something that can't keep a game alive by itself especially when below lv70 a lot of jobs feel crippled making the experience less enjoyable and when it comes to new content even before COVID pandemic this expansion has been very lacking compared to SB
    I understand what you're saying though; while there is truth to what you're saying, the game could benefit from more Ultimate fights/Raids for endgame raiders, hell they could/should add a new deep dungeon to keep people entertained
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guntank81 View Post
    hell they could/should add a new deep dungeon to keep people entertained
    I was so disappointed when SE announced there wouldn't be another for ShB. I'm hoping that they will release something else instead of just not releasing anything of the kind.

    Or maybe the upcoming Relic content will fill that hole? Who knows? Just have to wait and see.
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I was so disappointed when SE announced there wouldn't be another for ShB. I'm hoping that they will release something else instead of just not releasing anything of the kind.

    Or maybe the upcoming Relic content will fill that hole? Who knows? Just have to wait and see.
    They did say that the Bozja content would fill the void for leveling purposes at least, which is what a lot of people use Deep Dungeon for anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    They did say that the Bozja content would fill the void for leveling purposes at least, which is what a lot of people use Deep Dungeon for anyway.
    Heaven on High and Palace of the dead existed with the relics at the same time.
    The point is that we haven't seen what Hoh/Potd was replaced with in terms of time, cost, and development.

    Bozja is a follow up to Eureka, not a follow up to Heaven on High.
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    They did say that the Bozja content would fill the void for leveling purposes at least, which is what a lot of people use Deep Dungeon for anyway.
    I won't deny that a lot of people use it for that purpose but for me Deep Dungeon was never about leveling, I found the process to be mindnumbingly boring and everything dies so fast that you never learn anything about the job you're leveling. Deep Dungeons for me were about the challenge, the 4 man challenge to be exact, something this game is severely lacking in and Bozja does not fill that void.
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