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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    These are both things that I also think are the case. Although yeah, now that you mention it, I can't say I'm exactly sure as to why I think that.

    Both just seem kind of obvious I guess?

    The Allagan sealing would be virtually pointless if you could summon multiple copies of the same primal, so I'd say it's basically confirmed that you can't.

    We saw Ysayle control the Shiva incarnation, and Zenos does mention the echo can be used to force our will on to a primal. Whether we can go as far as to say that people without the echo that self-primal definitely end up self-tempering is rather ambiguous though. The goals of Thordan and Yotsuyu aligned pretty well with their respective primal forms, so it's hard to say exactly how much they were in control or not.
    You'd think that'd be something the Scions would have looked into before letting Ryne have a bash at being a primal.
    You would imagine if Zenos can do it why can't we as most powerful WoL/WoD with probably one fo the strongest echo due our status, just let us take over Primals and make peace with them that way, gives the Scions something to do also finally, everyoen with Echo take over one, end of those conflicts, tho then we are probably tempted ourself by Hydalin already so. *shrugs*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saix027 View Post
    You would imagine if Zenos can do it why can't we as most powerful WoL/WoD with probably one fo the strongest echo due our status, just let us take over Primals and make peace with them that way, gives the Scions something to do also finally, everyoen with Echo take over one, end of those conflicts, tho then we are probably tempted ourself by Hydalin already so. *shrugs*
    The WoL isn't always around to solve people's problems. And you underestimate a zealot's faith. The anata queen was so far gone that even if the WoL tried to temper it at that moment, she could still attack or try to will Lakshmi to become stronger. Seeing their god defeated does not defeat the people who summoned it or else she wouldn't have tried again. And if you meant make peace to the people through their god, well, the image is already set. They would know something was up if, say, Ravana god of war and conquest suddenly desired peace.
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    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saix027 View Post
    You would imagine if Zenos can do it why can't we as most powerful WoL/WoD with probably one fo the strongest echo due our status, just let us take over Primals and make peace with them that way, gives the Scions something to do also finally, everyoen with Echo take over one, end of those conflicts, tho then we are probably tempted ourself by Hydalin already so. *shrugs*
    I imagine if Zenos could do it, then theoretically so can we. Problem is that we don't know how to do it, and Zenos didn't seem very interested in teaching us.
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