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  1. #12271
    Player Veis_Alveare's Avatar
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    Veis Alve'are
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Standards, not nature, nature never changes.
    When designing a male race they're always designed with the heterosexual nature in mind. Just like when you're born; it's only after that that you can customize things to suit your gender identity.
    I don't think you're exactly qualified to determine when something like sexuality or gender identity begins to take shape in a person's psyche.

    There is nothing inherently "gay" or "feminine" about heels. That's like saying pink is a girly color or something. Yes, at this point societally we recognize that these gender norms exist but that doesn't mean they're naturally that way. There is nothing inherently less masculine about the color pink compared to the color blue, that's not how those things work.

    Also I agree with Nestama, just no kid-looking Viera please. People are creepy, don't help them.
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  2. #12272
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    Feiya Harlow
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    Odin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    Also I agree with Nestama, just no kid-looking Viera please. People are creepy, don't help them.
    There's basically a 0% chance they'll be kid- or even teenaged-looking, they've said as much. (Not specifically about Viera but in general.)
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  3. #12273
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    Jellicle Jayde
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    Maduin
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    As for the females, we have no clue what female Hrothgar would look like.
    Furthermore, stop projecting your own actions onto me.
    What the flying hell are you talking about? What am I projecting on you?

    And yeah, we don't know what Female Hrothgar would look like. We know what RONSO females look like, shorter than the males and every bit as animal, but who is to say that's what they do with Hrothgar females in this game. For all we know the devs will say "we HEARD you, you don't like limited head options and you want the genders ... so we're making Viera Males have smaller ears and put them in the cat people ear position and the Hrothgar females basically look like Mithra. Boom, both can have all the same hat and hair stuff as cat bois and girls". They can do w/e they want ... but even if they do that I'm 100% sure a Female hrothgar would look more beastly than a Femroe ever could by the nature of having actual beast features. Roe aint a beast race.

    You don't like Hrothgar for w/e reason, ok ... that's you. You don't have to like something to see that it adds something to the game and appeals to people.

    It's silly to think Roe were ever a decent stand in for "beast race" when they're the "giant race"
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    Last edited by reivaxe; 08-06-2020 at 08:10 PM.

  4. #12274
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    Sort of off topic but does the game have heels for men? They would go handy with my cute lala male glam. In preparation for if or when the maid outfit becomes wearable by males.
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  5. #12275
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Check the Eikon Shiva gear (Caster/Healer) in Idylshire. Maybe also the Eikon Leviathan gear (DEX) as well?
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  6. #12276
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    Jellicle Jayde
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Sort of off topic but does the game have heels for men? They would go handy with my cute lala male glam. In preparation for if or when the maid outfit becomes wearable by males.
    There could be a number of heels for men, I don't play one.

    I do know that 2B heels work as Cross-Play for men and the wedding stuff is cross-gender now.
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  7. #12277
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    Thanks for the info, this idea popped up in our discord we are not super knowledgeable when it comes to glam.
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  8. #12278
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    Koh'li Mewmore
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Sort of off topic but does the game have heels for men? They would go handy with my cute lala male glam. In preparation for if or when the maid outfit becomes wearable by males.
    There are a few, like the ones already pointed...
    High house (lv 1 boots), Bonnewicca from Swallow Compass (this one is an armor/plated heels).
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  9. #12279
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    There's basically a 0% chance they'll be kid- or even teenaged-looking, they've said as much. (Not specifically about Viera but in general.)
    Yes, thankfully that particular path has been ruled out. Though many of the same posters who were asking for them to look like that have now switched tactics and are pushing for them to be as short and androgynous/feminine as possible to get a similar effect.
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  10. #12280
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    Feiya Harlow
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    Odin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Yes, thankfully that particular path has been ruled out. Though many of the same posters who were asking for them to look like that have now switched tactics and are pushing for them to be as short and androgynous/feminine as possible to get a similar effect.
    By that response they gave about younger-looking characters I feel like it's something they don't even want to go near.
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