Regarding Firmament Titles For 5.3

[Commander_Justitia]

In WoW there was a fishing event once every month or so, you got a rare item that could transform you into a fish(and let you breath and swim underwater I think) if you won it. It was special even at higher levels. That approach of a casual leaderboard reward sounds so much more fitting than a different title each season. With time and years it got easier to get it because less people competed for it, but it still stayed desirable. I feel like they fear people won't try hard enough if the hardcore guys don't go for it anymore(with the same title each season) and the leaderboards gonna look empty as a result. An actual item (vanity, mount, consumable, ishgard housing wall idk) would have given a better incentive. I also feel like a lot more people expected more than a title from the season. It is funny coming from Ranked PvP and having played it a lot, the time people would have to invest in a casual crafting leaderboard seems even higher than that (while many people complain about the time investment in PvP already, which is disputable because it varies a lot).

[Liam_Harper]

I feel like they fear people won't try hard enough if the hardcore guys don't go for it anymore(with the same title each season) and the leaderboards gonna look empty as a result.

I fear it's more because they don't have anything else for the hardcore guys to do and have no plans to add anything. They've turned Master Recipes into a week 1 and done thing and killed the MB, so this is just a way to push us into the corner and keep us quiet.

[Alleo]

I am honestly still not sure why they even thought about changing it..there was no huge backlash to how they did it in the first season, heck if I remember it correctly people liked the idea because they feared what could otherwise happen if they change..

So why SE? Please tell me why you even started to think about changing something which 1. you said to keep that way for a reason 2. was not attacked for it because it would be a great way to get everyone the titles over time 3. easier for you because you did not need to introduce more titles each season..

Participation was still high even when the season was over. Of course there might be a time where someone will stop doing Ishgard simply because he got everything they want from it and are finally max level..but do you really think that the majority of people will even try to win a title each season? No it will only be those at the top again (and botters) and for those its just not healthy.

[SchwarzwaelderTorte]

I fear it's more because they don't have anything else for the hardcore guys to do and have no plans to add anything. They've turned Master Recipes into a week 1 and done thing and killed the MB, so this is just a way to push us into the corner and keep us quiet.

Perfect time for a thorough overhaul of FC airships and open them to everyone, make the crafting system more engaging and rewarding and not just "if you're alone it will be pain to grind if you're many to contribute it will take less time", and turn the airship system into something better and more fun than just "retainers, but slow" if you ask me :^)

[Canadane]

I appreciate you all still posting and having a voice on this! Just wanted to show I was still around and paying attention to my post xD

It’s important to keep posting about this.
It’s the only hope we have a community rep may deliver this to the dev team.

[Jojoya]

I expect the botters will be more of a threat for DoL than DoH, because you can always solve a supply issue by throwing gil at it - simple pre-patch prep for any crafter aiming top 12.

Can't throw gil at something that doesn't exist in the game yet. They'll be changing the materials and recipes for the next phase of the Restoration so players can't stock up in advance of the ranking period.

I feel like they fear people won't try hard enough if the hardcore guys don't go for it anymore(with the same title each season) and the leaderboards gonna look empty as a result.

Then it's probably time to admit the leaderboards aren't working out for whatever they intended them to accomplish.

It's not like the leaderboards mean anything now with the amount of botting going on. I could care less about earning another leaderboard title if it means getting associated with bots.

I'll stick to doing the level 70 crafts during the ranking period. I assume those will remain the fastest way to farm scrip and Skybuilder Board progress like they were last time (though less material efficient) since those will be a 2 step craft at 80. Once the ranking period is over, I can switch to working on Castle in the Sky and whatever phase 3 Expert achievements they add.

[hqdm]

Can't throw gil at something that doesn't exist in the game yet. They'll be changing the materials and recipes for the next phase of the Restoration so players can't stock up in advance of the ranking period.

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I didn't say stock up in advance.
The prep is collecting a lot of gil so that during the ranking period you can just buy from the MB without care of the price.

[Lecru]

I tried to read the Japanese thread on this subject with the help of Google Translate, they seem to be a lot more split on their opinion over there vs here. Though it was heartening to see in the LIX Digest that they said:



So we'll see, here's hoping that they don't do more than just add numerals to the titles to distinguish between seasons.

HONESTLY if they just added numerals, it'd be fine with that as long as the title stayed the same other than the numerals. I would be far less inclined to participate for just that reason. Leave th efirst one as Saint of the Firmament. This season put a II behind it

[Miminming]

agreed numerals is actually my best option

[Lecru]

It’s important to keep posting about this.
It’s the only hope we have a community rep may deliver this to the dev team.

For sure. Thanks Canadane