I'm gonna say something unpopular: I don't like to rush.

[ReiMakoto]

You can large pull in this game in a party with 0 healers. with 4 tanks and not even clemency spamming you can mass pull every dungeon this expac and not die. Solo and duo pulls can be handled by a party of 4 dps. If you're a tank in a proper party setup you can large pull a dungeon even in minimum item level. With all of the additional safety blankets of ilvl and a proper team setup, any tank who feels like they can't do more than one pack should jump in the deep end or get off the tank role.

[linayar]

You can...

Duh.

With all of the additional safety blankets of ilvl and a proper team setup, any tank who feels like they can't do more than one pack should jump in the deep end or get off the tank role.

Well, that's not up to you.

[ItMe]

any tank who feels like they can't do more than one pack should jump in the deep end or get off the tank role.

Ok, so no one is ever allowed to practice or be learning. As soon as you roll tank you need to already be a master or GTFO.

[Awha]

Ok, so no one is ever allowed to practice or be learning. As soon as you roll tank you need to already be a master or GTFO.

Depending on the group that may be the case. I do not think it is wrong for people to not want to deal with new players, or those wanting to practice.

While not a 100% certain if they approve of forcing someone to go into the deep end or that it should be a personal choice ones makes. I do feel a group is well within their right to not want to play with newer or inexperienced players. Just do not think they should force the play style on them, would rather people vote to remove the person instead of forcing them to play a certain way.

[linayar]

I do not think it is wrong for people to not want to deal with new players, or those wanting to practice.

Sure, but that has nothing to do with telling people not to play a certain role. Everyone has the option to leave a party they don't want to play with (or vote kick if it's an individual player).

[Awha]

Sure, but that has nothing to do with telling people not to play a certain role. Everyone has the option to leave a party they don't want to play with (or vote kick if it's an individual player).

I agree with that, my response was mainly aimed towards the comment that to roll tank you need be a master or gfto. For some groups that may be the case.

As you said they are free to remove them or leave.

[ItMe]

I agree with that, my response was mainly aimed towards the comment that to roll tank you need be a master or gfto. For some groups that may be the case.

As you said they are free to remove them or leave.

Hahah every time you try and agree with someone it sounds like you're trying to contradict them.
I'm not gonna lie, I started at your response to me for a good long while trying to figure out what to make of it.

[Awha]

Hahah every time you try and agree with someone it sounds like you're trying to contradict them.
I'm not gonna lie, I started at your response to me for a good long while trying to figure out what to make of it.

Question, is it okay to vote kick someone for wanting to rush if the group wishes to take their time?

I do feel most people would agree that it is a valid reason to remove someone. I also agree that it is a valid reason to remove someone, since at the core how they play differs from the overall group. Same could be said if a person wants to take it slower and the group wants to go quicker.

The reason behind why I think does not matter since by ib large that probably differs greatly from person to person.

[Corrie]

Ok, so no one is ever allowed to practice or be learning. As soon as you roll tank you need to already be a master or GTFO.

Apparently we have to be absolutely fine with people kicking us if were new or disabled too according to some people because were a burden. How nice and supportive for a community game.

Well tbh, the casual community on this forum have come to that consensus, not the experienced players. They're the ones saying that if we don't like them being new, bad or slow, we should kick them.

That is not what Im reading. There is no consensus in that thread, and I havent seen a lot of casuals asking to be kicked either. Disabled people shouldnt be kicked because they might inconvenience people for 30-40 minutes in a duty. New people shouldnt be kicked for still learning.

[TheRealQuah]

Ok, so no one is ever allowed to practice or be learning. As soon as you roll tank you need to already be a master or GTFO.

Tanking is the same whether you pull 1 pack or 3 packs. Tank stance on, AOE, use cooldown. Besides, tanks don't start at level 80, you should have enough practice by that point.

I bet you're really fun to hang out with.

Cool, just go straight to insulting him. Don't offer any counter arguments or be willing to debate. Really backs up your points and views.

Apparently we have to be absolutely fine with people kicking us if were new or disabled too according to some people because were a burden. How nice and supportive for a community game.

Well tbh, the casual community on this forum have come to that consensus, not the experienced players. They're the ones saying that if we don't like them being new, bad or slow, we should kick them.