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    Garleans are a distinct race from Hyurs, not a clan. Plus they'd have to work around Garleans being unable to manipulate aether; otherwise they literally can't use any existing player job.

    Maybe Doman Hyur instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Garleans are a distinct race from Hyurs, not a clan. Plus they'd have to work around Garleans being unable to manipulate aether; otherwise they literally can't use any existing player job.

    Maybe Doman Hyur instead?
    Othardian hyur is just hyur tho. ._.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Garleans are a distinct race from Hyurs, not a clan. Plus they'd have to work around Garleans being unable to manipulate aether; otherwise they literally can't use any existing player job.
    They're able to manipulate aether, it's just rare. Though the Warrior of Light/Darkness is already many levels of special so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch. The game also draws a clear distinction between regular Garleans and Imperial Garleans. We frequently see major characters team up with the former and working with the latter is something that has happened at least once in the form of Regula van Hydrus.

    With that said, adding a third eye glamour would be enough for many of those who choose to role-play Garleans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    They're able to manipulate aether, it's just rare.
    Actually no. If they are actually a Garlean, with the third eye, they have 0 ability to manipulate aether. There are however a lot of Hyurs in the empire who are not of the Garlean ancestry, which is how they have casters at all. Strangely there are some Hyurs with Garlean ancestry, they are unable to use aether, and have no visible third eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    Actually no. If they are actually a Garlean, with the third eye, they have 0 ability to manipulate aether. There are however a lot of Hyurs in the empire who are not of the Garlean ancestry, which is how they have casters at all. Strangely there are some Hyurs with Garlean ancestry, they are unable to use aether, and have no visible third eye.
    The Lorebook describes it as:

    "Garleans have little inborn ability to manipulate their body's aether, however, and thus the arcane arts have ever eluded all but a few."

    It is rare, but not unheard of, for members of the Garlean race to be able to use magic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    The Lorebook describes it as:

    "Garleans have little inborn ability to manipulate their body's aether, however, and thus the arcane arts have ever eluded all but a few."

    It is rare, but not unheard of, for members of the Garlean race to be able to use magic.
    your highlighting those words doesn't mean pureblooded Garleans have a small chance to manipulate aether. It means using Magitech they might be able to bypass their lack of ability with aetherial manipulation and maybe possibly give themselves something like the Echo or even the abilities of the Ascians. This doesn't mean a 1 in 10000000 chance of an Arcanist.


    p.s. Putting my reply into spoilers, because duh, spoilers to shadowbringers content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    your highlighting those words doesn't mean pureblooded Garleans have a small chance to manipulate aether. It means using Magitech they might be able to bypass their lack of ability with aetherial manipulation and maybe possibly give themselves something like the Echo or even the abilities of the Ascians. This doesn't mean a 1 in 10000000 chance of an Arcanist.


    p.s. Putting my reply into spoilers, because duh, spoilers to shadowbringers content.
    I don't understand how you've arrived at the conclusion that the passage is talking about Magitek. It specifically mentions inborn ability to manipulate the bodies aether.

    Magitek isn't something you're born with. It also generally uses Ceruleum as fuel, rather than the bodies own aether.
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    Player Gothicshark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    I don't understand how you've arrived at the conclusion that the passage is talking about Magitek. It's specifically mentions inborn ability to manipulate the bodies aether.

    Magitek isn't something you're born with. It also generally uses Ceruleum as fuel, rather than the bodies own aether.
    my reply is in spiolers again, because I am hitting 5.2 spoilers on this.

    The statement you quote is open-ended so the writers of the game have wiggle room. However, instead of using the wiggle room, they used magitech to build a device that modified a living body so that it could use the Echo, or something of that nature, the by-product of that research allowed the first Prince Zenos yae Galvus to transcend to the approximation of an ascian. "however, and thus the arcane arts have ever eluded all but a few." the few who have, Solus zos Galvus, an Ascian pretending to be a Garlean, and Zenos, an artificially Transcended person.
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