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  1. #31
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    I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but quickly glancing it doesn't look like it.

    But the devs have stated that more than the two clans we have access to do exist. It's just that, like in real life, genetic variance is so vast, yet similar to one another, that distinguishing features are like a dime a dozen. What that means in terms of reality is that, people aren't so different from one another. What that means in terms of game play is the devs are not making another model for someone who is just going to look exactly the same as everyone else, lol.

    This is exemplified in game by several characters too. Yda, Minfilia, and Warburton are all Highlanders, despite using midlands models. It makes semi sense for Yda and Minfilia, given the female model didn't exist yet, but Warbirton uses the Midlander model even though a Highlander one existed in 1.0. (Although, this could be a way of showcasing that there can be variations within a "clan". Just because someone is a Highlander doesn't mean they have to be super tall, lol.)

    Any of the Hyurs met in the east aren't referred to as Highlanders or Midlanders, but as Eastern Hyurs. The same with Gosetsu, the devs stated, he isn't a Hellsgard or a Seawolf but another "clan" entirely.

    This is exemplified in game too, by stating that over time one "clan" can divulge enough to become it own separate thing after a time. The Duskwight Elezen were once a part of the Wildwood, but became their own thing after several generations of isolation. The same is true for the Elezen of Ishgard, and the Au Ra of Sui-no-Sato.

    So you see there aren't just two clans in game. We just have access to two versions of certain clans.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    The Duskwight Elezen were once a part of the Wildwood, but became their own thing after several generations of isolation.
    I still have my theory that the only reason why duskwights and moon keepers are blue is because unfiltered shroud water has tons of silver in it, causing the isolationist clans to turn blue.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but quickly glancing it doesn't look like it.

    But the devs have stated that more than the two clans we have access to do exist. It's just that, like in real life, genetic variance is so vast, yet similar to one another, that distinguishing features are like a dime a dozen. What that means in terms of reality is that, people aren't so different from one another. What that means in terms of game play is the devs are not making another model for someone who is just going to look exactly the same as everyone else, lol.

    This is exemplified in game by several characters too. Yda, Minfilia, and Warburton are all Highlanders, despite using midlands models. It makes semi sense for Yda and Minfilia, given the female model didn't exist yet, but Warbirton uses the Midlander model even though a Highlander one existed in 1.0. (Although, this could be a way of showcasing that there can be variations within a "clan". Just because someone is a Highlander doesn't mean they have to be super tall, lol.)

    Any of the Hyurs met in the east aren't referred to as Highlanders or Midlanders, but as Eastern Hyurs. The same with Gosetsu, the devs stated, he isn't a Hellsgard or a Seawolf but another "clan" entirely.

    This is exemplified in game too, by stating that over time one "clan" can divulge enough to become it own separate thing after a time. The Duskwight Elezen were once a part of the Wildwood, but became their own thing after several generations of isolation. The same is true for the Elezen of Ishgard, and the Au Ra of Sui-no-Sato.

    So you see there aren't just two clans in game. We just have access to two versions of certain clans.
    I've kind of always suspected as much, myself. But getting an additional clan would definitely be awesome all the same, I think.

    Granted, I'm also in support of simply adding more Face options and the like. New Clans just sounds cooler, though, with the potential of introducing new cultures. I especially love the idea of a Norse Viking sort of Hrothgar clan (even their name sounds very nordic, imo). More Canine features with maybe some braided beards or things like that, maybe? And more optional scars (maybe even a scar over an eye that renders that eye white and "blind").
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    I especially love the idea of a Norse Viking sort of Hrothgar clan (even their name sounds very nordic, imo).
    The name literally comes from the saga of Beowulf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    What if the Devs added another "Clan" for each Race?
    More options are usually a very good idea...

    ...but ...



    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    Hyur - Garleans.
    Full stop. This can't happen. Sadly because Garleans CAN NOT manipulate Aether, they can not be any Player class besides maybe Machinist. Also, all caster classes convert aether into spells. So Garleans are right out.


    next...

    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    Elezen - Ishgardians
    Duskwight, all Ishgardians are descended from Duskwights, and all Ishgardian features use Duskwight player settings. This is purely a case of RPing as Ishgardian, which is easy enough in-game, I would, however, love to see Elezen from other regions expressed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    Hrothgar
    Let's just get female Hrothgar and male Viera first.


    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    Au Ra
    well since my second main, and posting character is an Au Ra Rean, I would love for more lore, but the two ... I hesitate to use "clans" for this, as Xaela have a bunch of clans and settlements, while Rean are left with one town hidden away, and are all of the same clan. I would love for more Rean representation though, and when they finally open Hingashi I hope there are more Rean villages.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    They're able to manipulate aether, it's just rare.
    Actually no. If they are actually a Garlean, with the third eye, they have 0 ability to manipulate aether. There are however a lot of Hyurs in the empire who are not of the Garlean ancestry, which is how they have casters at all. Strangely there are some Hyurs with Garlean ancestry, they are unable to use aether, and have no visible third eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    Duskwight, all Ishgardians are descended from Duskwights, and all Ishgardian features use Duskwight player settings. This is purely a case of RPing as Ishgardian, which is easy enough in-game, I would, however, love to see Elezen from other regions expressed.
    Hate to be this person... but idk where you got that Thancred was part Garlean. He can't use magic because of the result of Y'shtola's flow at the end of ARR. He used magic beforehand.

    Ishgardians are descendants of the Wildwood who have become their own "clan" due to years in the snow, except for House Dzemael which is seemingly descendant of the Duskwights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soge01 View Post
    ...Maybe deep cavern Elezen (like the ones from Skyrim)...
    I agree with your post, but I should point out that technically according to lore, Duskwrights are basically Deep Elves who lingered in deep caverns where their ancient civilization once stood. So yah, already in-game. Most people assume Duskwrights are just from Ishgard and hells knows we RP it all the time, even my main (not the posting character) is from Ishgard. But the lore actually states the Player Duskwrights are from the elezen who remained in Gelmorra.

    Gelmorra lore is quite interesting, wish they had more of it honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    Full stop. This can't happen. Sadly because Garleans CAN NOT manipulate Aether, they can not be any Player class besides maybe Machinist.
    Machinists still use aether. Quoting from Encyclopedia Eorzea:

    Aetherotransformer
    This device converts the wearer's aether into lighting-aspected energy, which is in turn stored within the transformer's crystal cores. The machinist then draws upon this accumulated energy to both power and enhance her unique repertoire of weapons, requiring her to master skills far beyond those trained by any mundane musketeer.
    (Incidentally, the "lighting" thing is in the the book. I assume it's a typo and intended to be "lightning".)

    Even Thancred who has some Garlean ancestry
    Wait, what?
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    Player Gothicshark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    Hate to be this person... but idk where you got that Thancred was part Garlean. He can't use magic because of the result of Y'shtola's flow at the end of ARR. He used magic beforehand.

    Ishgardians are descendants of the Wildwood who have become their own "clan" due to years in the snow, except for House Dzemael which is seemingly descendant of the Duskwights.
    I stand corrected on Thancred. As to Ishgardians, blame SE, they used only Duskwrite models and options on all the Elezen, than they made House Dzemael actually Duskwrights, which means at least 12% of the upper class of Ishgard is pure Duskwright. It basically makes it clear that yah, Ishgard was founded by Elezen, at a time when both groups were still fresh from the fall of Gelmorra, after all, all player Elezen clans were from Gelmorra when the Hyur and Elezen that founded Gridania left. Causing the civilization to collapse. Ishgard was founded around this time. Calling Ishgardians Wildwood Elezen is false, they are not from Gridania, their civilization is just as old.



    Think of it like this. Timeline of Elezen in Eorzea.

    Long ago:

    One Elezen population in Eorzea

    Elementals force them underground create civilization called Gelmorra with Hyur.

    Elementals allow Elezen and Hyur back into the land, half the Elezen and all the Hyur found Gridania.

    Gelmorra collapses as a civilization, the remaining Elezen become Duskwrights, the ones who founded Gridania become Wildwood.

    At the same time, a group of Elezen found Ishgard. Build a civilization similar to Gelmorra. Look like Duskwrights, and 12% of them claim to be Duskwrights.

    Sorry Ishgarians are not Wildwoods, never have been, unless you count Gelmorra as a Wildwood civilization.
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