Extreme trials and the DF

[Townowi]

Because EX trials are high-end content, no matter how old, it would then be reasonable to put all of the EX trials in the high-end DF (and then there should be a Lv50/60/70 EX trial roulette in the high-end DF) rather than being lumped together with their MSQ versions in the DF. Now I believe there should have reward buffs to older trials, other than guaranteed drops of minions or mounts (if they aren't already guaranteed to drop). That, even though it may not result in more use of the DF for that content, at least it wouldn't mislead people.

Any reason why put EX trials in the regular trial DF (and, correspondingly, roulette)?

[Canadane]

Any reason why put EX trials in the regular trial DF (and, correspondingly, roulette)?

Because they aren't new.
Cinder Drift and Memoria Misera are new, they are in high end. When they are replaced they will no longer be there.

That being said, where it is in the queuing system means very little for the majority of the NA/EU playerbase, they'll use Party Finder to match with people, they don't draw randoms from Duty Finder.

[Vahlnir]

I think they should get their own roulette, tbh. Would a ton of people use it? Probably not, at least not without the right incentive. But they created New Game+ for a relatively small section of the community so they could realistically do the same with this type of roulette.

[MsMisato]

I think they should get their own roulette, tbh. Would a ton of people use it? Probably not, at least not without the right incentive. But they created New Game+ for a relatively small section of the community so they could realistically do the same with this type of roulette.

I could definitley be wrong, but didn't they use to have it separated out buck during 2.0-2.5? I thought they had a bigger variety of roulette like regular dungeons, HM dungeons roulette etc.... I never screened shooted the roulette finder but I thought they had something like that.

[Ririta]

I could definitley be wrong, but didn't they use to have it separated out buck during 2.0-2.5? I thought they had a bigger variety of roulette like regular dungeons, HM dungeons roulette etc.... I never screened shooted the roulette finder but I thought they had something like that.

You mean this?

https://imgur.com/a/mESfypv

[Vahlnir]

I could definitley be wrong, but didn't they use to have it separated out buck during 2.0-2.5? I thought they had a bigger variety of roulette like regular dungeons, HM dungeons roulette etc.... I never screened shooted the roulette finder but I thought they had something like that.

The only roulette they've ever put Extreme trials into has been the Mentor roulette.

[MrThinker]

The only roulette they've ever put Extreme trials into has been the Mentor roulette.

Which, in my own opinion, has always been weird. The mentor roulette should only consist of duties already present in other roulettes (again, in my own opinion), but that's a different can of worms.

[Vahlnir]

Which, in my own opinion, has always been weird. The mentor roulette should only consist of duties already present in other roulettes (again, in my own opinion), but that's a different can of worms.

I fully agree, but yeah, that's another thing entirely.

[Ultimatecalibur]

Which, in my own opinion, has always been weird. The mentor roulette should only consist of duties already present in other roulettes (again, in my own opinion), but that's a different can of worms.

The Mentor roulette was pretty much introduced to fill out EX queues with players who knew how to do the fights with filling any in progress or stalled duties being a secondary benefit.

[ForteNightshade]

I think they should get their own roulette, tbh. Would a ton of people use it? Probably not, at least not without the right incentive. But they created New Game+ for a relatively small section of the community so they could realistically do the same with this type of roulette.

An EX Roulette wouldn't be relatively small though. It would border on non-existent. Look at how many Mentors bail the moment they get a synced Primal. There just isn't a reward large enough that would completely imbalance the system. When you can cap current tomes in two hours through hunts or send a little longer in easy dungeons, why would anyone touch an EX variant? Maybe you put a mount there but then people would just form premades; defeating the entire purpose.

The Mentor roulette was pretty much introduced to fill out EX queues with players who knew how to do the fights with filling any in progress or stalled duties being a secondary benefit.

To fill out queues in general. I don't think they ever intended to fill out just EX queues.