I'm gonna say something unpopular: I don't like to rush.

[Doozer]

Someone wanting to take their time in content or NOT rush is not the same as someone opting to torture your party to watch them suffer. The big difference is, YOU decide how you get these parties.. Duty roulette is not at your whim, you are at its. Which again, all you need is communication. I can't believe how hard people fight OTHER PEOPLE'S PLAYSTYLE for content they can clear regardless. Worry about your damn selves ffs.

Everything you said is good, but I think it's really important for people to read this bit. Maybe a dozen times or so.

People act like a tank not playing how they want is a direct attack on them, trolling, etc. and refuse to find parties any other way if they hate it so much. A tank not rushing is apparently entitled, but demanding every other player conform to something someone else decided they should do is totally fine and normal.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Everything you said is good, but I think it's really important for people to read this bit. Maybe a dozen times or so.

People act like a tank not playing how they want is a direct attack on them, trolling, etc. and refuse to find parties any other way if they hate it so much. A tank not rushing is apparently entitled, but demanding every other player conform to something someone else decided they should do is totally fine and normal.

Yes, people should read this a dozen of times.

If you want to take your time and not rush, maybe put up a party finder for the effect?

Being at the whims of the Duty Roulette doesn't mean that the roulette defaults to non-rushing and taking your time.

And yes, Doozer, if 3 people want the tank to rush but they don't, they are entitled and demanding their party to conform to them. It's suddenly not entitlement and forcing to conform just because you happen to defend non-rushing tanks.

1 person's whims > 3 people's whims just because you happen to allign with the singular person's whims and this goes for everyone.

[Doozer]

Being at the whims of the Duty Roulette doesn't mean that the roulette defaults to non-rushing and taking your time.

And being at the whims of the duty roulette doesn't mean the roulette defaults to rushing. Weird!

I find it funny that you're arguing with me and not the person who said it first that I was agreeing with. Also weird.

Just remember that the game doesn't put any goalposts on DF other than clearing the content so, regardless of what you think the meta is, anything beyond that is player created and shouldn't be applied to everyone who plays the game.

Agreed.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

And being at the whims of the duty roulette doesn't mean the roulette defaults to rushing. Weird!

I find it funny that you're arguing with me and not the person who said it first that I was agreeing with. Also weird.



Agreed.

Except for the fact that on a group game, everyone making a similar effort > one player riding on the others efforts.

But I forgot some people still think this a single player game and the other 3 players are just bots.

[Doozer]

Except for the fact that on a group game, everyone making a similar effort > one player riding on the others efforts.

But I forgot some people still think this a single player game and the other 3 players are just bots.

I see, you're just pulling arguments out of a hat to have a reason to talk to me. I'm flattered. I don't recall ever saying it's a single player game and that the other three players are bots, but I'd love for you to quote me when I did. Maybe I'm misremembering. Perhaps it was in a thread about strawman arguments?

[JohnSpawnVFX]

I see, you're just pulling arguments out of a hat to have a reason to talk to me. I'm flattered. I don't recall ever saying it's a single player game and that the other three players are bots, but I'd love for you to quote me when I did. Maybe I'm misremembering. Perhaps it was in a thread about strawman arguments?

I was wondering when you'd pull the victim and persecution cards

Statements have consequences. Just because you aren't aware of them doesn't mean they don't exist. Just because you didn't mention those consequences, doesn't mean they don't exist,

Lol the person who keeps saying anyone responding to them is out to get them is talking about strawman arguments? You are misremembering your own posting history.

[Doozer]

I was wondering when you'd pull the victim and persecution cards

Oh now it's just sad. Fight with yourself, then you'll always win. I'm not playing with you, pal.