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  1. #91
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    Avi Taro
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    I've actually really grown to like almost all of them as characters. I just wish they'd stop being so unbelievably stupid every time it's convenient for the plot. There's been more than one quest where I really wanted all of them to shut up and stop to use the brains they apparently forgot back at the Waking Sands before setting out on whatever adventure it is at the time...
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    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

  2. #92
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    Aribeth Lightbringer
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    let suppose for second you no long existe in scion lives i wonder how empty they lives would feel without the WoL to take them on adventures or help save all the world or first with how miseable they would feel. now i bet they many thing the scion find frustating about silence WoL thing they wish she or he did more or less over sometime anger them sometime thing they problem want her or him stop doing or do more of.

    they problem have hashtag

    #KickWoL going some where

    realize the scion are bunch of students their going be very braining if you think about and the WoL is adventurer. in Trailer Y'shodi sound very anger at WoL for some reason i doubt there much WoL can do about her existe
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    Last edited by Savagelf; 07-27-2020 at 09:23 AM.

  3. #93
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    Shikaree Sinhunter
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    The only one I care about among the Scions, is Y'shtola. And they cannot (or will not) kill their poster-child for FFXIV. The same way (I swear) they tried to kill Shanttoto multiple times in FFXI, and she's basically the face of XI in other games where collaborations pop up with XI appearances.
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  4. #94
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    Hikari Youko
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    I just wish they are just not so flat as a character.

    I say "they", but what I really mean is Alphinaud. He is such a flat and boring, boring, boring, boring, character. Too "pure" and goody-goody 2 shoes, like I don't have a problem with kind, caring characters but he is just too much, too white, too pure, too nice, too idealistic, like he doesn't have a single bad bone in him. Compared to the others he's just really really really boring.
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  5. #95
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    Vicious Zvahl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elkanah View Post
    The only one I care about among the Scions, is Y'shtola. And they cannot (or will not) kill their poster-child for FFXIV. The same way (I swear) they tried to kill Shanttoto multiple times in FFXI, and she's basically the face of XI in other games where collaborations pop up with XI appearances.
    The only time they really tried to kill Shantotto in FFXI was during that one cash grab add-on, A Shantotto Ascension, but in the end even that ended up being more comedy than anything else. I still don't get why she made it into other game material, maybe due to JP love for her? Not that I hate her, but like, not a major character very much at all. They sure have made it seem that way though.

    I think they will kill Y'shtola when they are ready to kill her. Not any time soon, but maybe sometime in 6.0. It's long overdue. As for the reasoning that they can't kill off a character in one game, because they do stuff in another, well, they kill off the major villains that they feature in everything they've featured Y'shtola in so... I mean, they could. It wouldn't have any impact on those other games if she winds up dead within XIV.
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  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    The only time they really tried to kill Shantotto in FFXI was during that one cash grab add-on, A Shantotto Ascension, but in the end even that ended up being more comedy than anything else. I still don't get why she made it into other game material, maybe due to JP love for her? Not that I hate her, but like, not a major character very much at all. They sure have made it seem that way though.

    I think they will kill Y'shtola when they are ready to kill her. Not any time soon, but maybe sometime in 6.0. It's long overdue. As for the reasoning that they can't kill off a character in one game, because they do stuff in another, well, they kill off the major villains that they feature in everything they've featured Y'shtola in so... I mean, they could. It wouldn't have any impact on those other games if she winds up dead within XIV.
    Major villains don't count. They're villains in the FF series for a reason. Which hero did they kill off in a major game and brought into another game outside of dissidia (where nothing is real in that game anyways and not canon)? Otherwise, FFXIV is non existent as well and might as well not be according to that logic (with the amount of villains from every major ff game possible lol)
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    Last edited by Elkanah; 07-28-2020 at 03:54 AM.

  7. #97
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    Guys, don't worry. Eventually the WoD is going to become a Forgiven sin eater and kill off every single one of our beloved allies. By the way, we should totally get a dream sequence when we go to sleep at the inn, where we kill all our Scion friends. That way we can kill 'em as much as we want and not have to change the story.
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    Three Ilm Knights, One Thousand Malm Road

  8. #98
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    Vicious Zvahl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elkanah View Post
    Major villains don't count. They're villains in the FF series for a reason. Which hero did they kill off in a major game and brought into another game outside of dissidia (where nothing is real in that game anyways and not canon)? Otherwise, FFXIV is non existent as well and might as well not be according to that logic (with the amount of villains from every major ff game possible lol)
    Aeris in Kingdom Hearts 3. They can and probably will kill Y'shtola.
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  9. #99
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    Razard Baleth
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaughingBanana View Post
    I just wish they are just not so flat as a character.

    I say "they", but what I really mean is Alphinaud. He is such a flat and boring, boring, boring, boring, character. Too "pure" and goody-goody 2 shoes, like I don't have a problem with kind, caring characters but he is just too much, too white, too pure, too nice, too idealistic, like he doesn't have a single bad bone in him. Compared to the others he's just really really really boring.
    It's almost like having an ensemble cast of characters with different viewpoints. ideals and life experience levels is a good thing. Creates this thing called character and group dynamics.

    I am so glad the paste swillers in the forums don't write the story for this game.
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  10. #100
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    Asuka Suzuhana
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeraRamis View Post
    Please... just let me betray and eliminate my erstwhile papier-mâché band of fake people. I'm so done having this unlikable entourage tagging along every expansion. It's gotten to the point where it would no longer be satisfying enough for me to watch, say, Y'shtola die - I need to do it myself (and, hey! It's not like she could see it coming!).



    I get that this is a Final Fantasy; I get that these characters are intended to be my 'party.' But that really isn't true, is it? They never really help me; they're never present at ground zero when **** truly hits the fan in, say, a raid - other players are. Other players are my real party; other players are my friends, allies, comrades, etc. Thus, the Scions are doubly ridiculous - they're both annoying/poorly written, and they're superfluous to a game that emphasizes teamwork with other human beings.

    If I can't behead the lot of them with my big DRK sword all Gaffgarion-style, at least leave the Scions stranded bodiless on the First. This is the perfect opportunity to be rid of them... so even if I cannot have the pleasure of cutting big, gaping holes in some plot armor, you can at least do us all (okay, most of us? The vast majority of us? The sane minority of us?) the favor of assuring the Scions' collective departure from the story moving forward.

    Please.
    I love the Scions who are my traveling companions during the epic even more present from the Trust system.
    I experienced a lot of emotion in their presence with each expansion and even more in Shadowbringer.

    But I want to kill some useless character and the dead antagonists but who come back all the way, even if there is an explanation.
    it saves money for the modeling team.

    Ps: I want to kill Ryne and her gothic friend on the other hand, it's stupid power 1000. (see Eden quest).
    "Let's go drink tea with cookies together and be best friends in the world, yeay!" ...
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    Last edited by Naoki34; 07-30-2020 at 06:29 PM.

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