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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    A determined cunning and manipulative thief will always steal. A liar will always lie be it forgery or otherwise. Ect, ect. Doesn't mean people aren't supposed to stop trying to keep it at a minimum. And if they do manage to worm their way into a minor's personal space, then that is very unfortunate. But the goal is minimization as well as upholding the ToS. A bank has a bullet proof glass for tellers, should I bring 10 grenades? Irrelevant. Because the point is... there's bullet proof glass for the thousands of common thugs to not shoot the poor ladies in the face whilst demanding the money.
    Removing Erp Advertisements from the PF(Which yes they should be removed) is like knocking the cherry off a Sundae. Its not minimizing so much as its just removing Evidence of its existence from view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Removing Erp Advertisements from the PF(Which yes they should be removed) is like knocking the cherry off a Sundae. Its not minimizing so much as its just removing Evidence of its existence from view.
    It's not evidence, it's one avenue through which predatory adults can prey on minors. Having it be visible doesn't reduce how many people get affected, whereas even if completely removing it from the PF only stops one instance of it happening, that should be more than enough reason to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    It's not evidence, it's one avenue through which predatory adults can prey on minors. Having it be visible doesn't reduce how many people get affected, whereas even if completely removing it from the PF only stops one instance of it happening, that should be more than enough reason to do it.
    Chat does more harm then the PF. But one should always choose the lesser of two evils.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I dunno... That sounds like it could be applied to so much...
    Lots of things can be applied to lots of things. Luckily, the world doesn't actually exist in black-and-white, and it's possible to not just use blanket statements and assume because we did A we must obviously do B. Two different situations can be approached with two different solutions.

    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Chat does more harm then the PF. But one should always choose the lesser of two evils.
    And you can blacklist people in chat. You can't actually remove PF listings from being visible from your end, if I remember correctly.

    This kind of stuff is already against the ToS. "Obscene/indecent expressions", for example. These things shouldn't be advertised in PF, and if it's unwanted, similar chat messages can be reported.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    And you can blacklist people in chat. You can't actually remove PF listings from being visible from your end, if I remember correctly.

    This kind of stuff is already against the ToS. "Obscene/indecent expressions", for example. These things shouldn't be advertised in PF, and if it's unwanted, similar chat messages can be reported.
    "18+", "ERP" and "brothel" aren't obscene/indecent expressions. The majority of ERP listings don't have any obscene or indecent expressions to report about, and knowledge that any players responding to that PF will possibly engage in some type of sensual/sexual activity is nowhere near qualifying the PF as an obscene/indecent expression.

    This whole thread is nothing but people trying their hardest to cancel PFs they aren't interested in because they lack the common sense and/or maturity to just ignore it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    This whole thread is nothing but people trying their hardest to cancel PFs they aren't interested in because they lack the common sense and/or maturity to just ignore it.
    Imagine thinking being concerned the for safety of minors in a T rated game is just "cancel culture" or something, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Chat does more harm then the PF. But one should always choose the lesser of two evils.
    So why are you fighting so hard to defend it? Do you hook in one of these things? Because I see no good reason to argue so vehemently against it besides absolutely needing it in your life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    So why are you fighting so hard to defend it? Do you hook in one of these things? Because I see no good reason to argue so vehemently against it besides absolutely needing it in your life.
    Probably because you're all trying to kill a fly with a nuke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Probably because you're all trying to kill a fly with a nuke.
    I think of it more of trying to kill a elephant with a wooden spoon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Probably because you're all trying to kill a fly with a nuke.
    Time and time again it has been posted. It is. Against. The. Terms. Of. Service.

    Naoki Yoshida, director and producer of the game you play, has stated to report it.

    The irl problems are a byproduct of the overarching goal here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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