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  1. #491
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    Teachers in schools are part of a team with students and other faculty, parents, administration, and staff.

    Anyone can be a teacher. Just not anyone can be a teacher in the traditional form. When people give advice, they are teaching. Now if the individual rejects the advice or teaching of any sorts, that is on them and there can be potential conquences. In a school, it can be failing grades or not getting into college. In this game, it can mean slowing down the team, not clearing, or getting kicked.
    Ok, all of this is wrong. Some person who randomly gives you advice isn't a teacher; teachers are assigned/chosen/solicited. If I didn't hire or solicit your education in any way then you're not my teacher; you're just some guy talking to me.

    If I specifically approach you for education then you're free to advise me as you see fit. If I didn't approach you for education then there's an etiquette you need to follow if you want to start randomly teaching me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    If I didn't approach you for education then there's an etiquette you need to follow if you want to start randomly teaching me.
    Been teaching you for a hot minute here kid, no etiquette needed.
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  3. #493
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    Been teaching you for a hot minute here kid, no etiquette needed.
    Nah, you've mainly been giving empty responses like this because you're out of your depth but still want to participate. It's cute.
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  4. #494
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    Nah, you've mainly been giving empty responses like this because you're out of your depth but still want to participate. It's cute.
    If you recall I offered to actually speak to you several times, but so long as you're still content with repeating yourself in the face of actual points I'll keep calling a spade a spade.
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  5. #495
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    I received a formal education on pedagogy. You do not have to ask for advice to be taught. It's odd you think someone cannot learn, if they did not ask to learn. We all learn all the time. No one ever stops learning.

    Students in school do not always ask for help, but I give it when they need it.
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  6. #496
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    If you recall I offered to actually speak to you several times, but so long as you're still content with repeating yourself in the face of actual points I'll keep calling a spade a spade.
    lol, what are you talking about you challenging me to a discord fight? Still interested to hear what difference that would make. If you have a valid counterpoint make it here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    I received a formal education on pedagogy. You do not have to ask for advice to be taught. It's odd you think someone cannot learn, if they did not ask to learn. We all learn all the time. No one ever stops learning.

    Students in school do not always ask for help, but I give it when they need it.
    I didn't say they can't learn, I said there's an etiquette to follow if you want to teach someone who didn't ask for your advice.

    Your students already asked for your advice specifically by taking you on as their teacher; so you can give them advice whenever you want.
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    Last edited by Goji1639; 07-25-2020 at 11:45 AM.

  7. #497
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    That isn't a violation of etiquette. That is how the world works. If one doesn't like it, the party can then kick them.
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  8. #498
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    lol, what are you talking about you challenging me to a discord fight? Still interested to hear what difference that would make. If you have a valid counterpoint make it here.
    Not to butt into a conversation I left a long time ago, but aren't you the one that said people should offer suggestions and criticism in private? So why, after they offered to do so, are you telling them to do it in public instead?
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  9. #499
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Not to butt into a conversation I left a long time ago, but aren't you the one that said people should offer suggestions and criticism in private? So why, after they offered to do so, are you telling them to do it in public instead?
    Because I asked him to do it here; that's what soliciting is. Unsolicited criticism should be handled in private.
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    Last edited by Goji1639; 07-25-2020 at 11:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    Because I asked him to do it here; that's what soliciting is. Unsolicited criticism should be handled in private.
    I'm not sure you understood me, but that's okay.
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