"Elitism" vs "Casualism"

[Shalan]

When you guys do any physical activity, like sports or going to the gym, do you view others (who aren't professionals or trainers) that see you struggling/using equipment improperly and subsequently offering advice as being condescending and rude?
It's unsolicited, public, and by your definitions is rude, patronizing, and is actually an attempt to shame you in front of others. But have you ever considered it may come from a genuine place of concern or understanding and desire to see you do better and not

just meant to insult or shift the blame...generally just a way for people to point a finger at someone and say 'that guy is the reason we are failing'

[Doozer]

When you guys do any physical activity, like sports or going to the gym, do you view others (who aren't professionals or trainers) that see you struggling/using equipment improperly and subsequently offering advice as being condescending and rude?
It's unsolicited, public, and by your definitions is rude, patronizing, and is actually an attempt to shame you in front of others. But have you ever considered it may come from a genuine place of concern or understanding and desire to see you do better and not

Sometimes the 'advice' given isn't done in a very tactful way. Sometimes when someone sees you using equipment wrong they laugh and just call you an idiot, or go, "you know you're using that wrong, right?" but don't actually help.

I wish people would realize that the 'advice' given by players in this game isn't always friendly or actually helpful at all. Rude people do exist and often seem more plentiful because they're louder. If something comes from a "genuine place of concern" or whatever, they would actually be nice about it. If you have to tell yourself that maybe they mean well besides being a huge jerk, the problem lies with the advice-giver, not the receiver.

[Shalan]

Sometimes the 'advice' given isn't done in a very tactful way. Sometimes when someone sees you using equipment wrong they laugh and just call you an idiot, or go, "you know you're using that wrong, right?" but don't actually help.

I wish people would realize that the 'advice' given by players in this game isn't always friendly or actually helpful at all. Rude people do exist and often seem more plentiful because they're louder. If something comes from a "genuine place of concern" or whatever, they would actually be nice about it. If you have to tell yourself that maybe they mean well besides being a huge jerk, the problem lies with the advice-giver, not the receiver.

We have acknowledged that already in this conversation, but we've been met with the idea that any unsolicited advice is negative as it's airing something negative to the public. Of course rude or empty statements like those you listed are pointless and/or offensive but it's generally not what we're talking about. Even friendly, tact, or brief advice is being seen as hostile or treated as if it belies some sort of underhanded remark, even if it's made in the utmost sincerity. And that's an issue.