The tawdry female bosses are tiresome, and we could do with more male fanservice.

[LaughingBanana]

All I can account for is the US so I can't make any claims for any other country, but, in the US women have equal rights. Period. They can vote, get an education and hold a job of their choosing. It is illegal to deny this based on gender, race, sexuality or religion.

What you're thinking of is the disparity between men and women in certain fields. The idea that there has to be a 50/50 split of men and women in all things which is both wrong and if enforced is discrimination, which is illegal.

I am actually rather mindblown seeing that you say female have equal rights in the US, which is to say you do not believe that women is under a worse situation compared to men in the US society right now?

I am... actually rather mindblown. This is like black people have equal rights to whites too, simply because "they can vote, get an education, and hold a job of their choosing." Surely you're not serious about this?

Just in the video game industry alone we recently have the Ubisoft scandal blowing up, for example, because how overly male-centric the company is and how women were treated like trash, getting sexually assaulted, choked (!), made jokes of, contributions and ideas ignored, etc etc, and this is something that is not limited to the video game industry alone, and you would handwave all that because *technically* yes women can have jobs now?

Heck man, your president even said he would grab women by the pussy and STILL got elected to his job right now. THAT is how low the US society in general still consider women as.

I don't even....

[Joven]

I am actually rather mindblown seeing that you say female have equal rights in the US, which is to say you do not believe that women is under a worse situation compared to men in the US society right now?

I am... actually rather mindblown. This is like black people have equal rights to whites too, simply because "they can vote, get an education, and hold a job of their choosing." Surely you're not serious about this?

Just in the video game industry alone we recently have the Ubisoft scandal blowing up, for example, because how overly male-centric the company is and how women were treated like trash, getting sexually assaulted, choked (!), made jokes of, contributions and ideas ignored, etc etc, and this is something that is not limited to the video game industry alone, and you would handwave all that because *technically* yes women can have jobs now?

Heck man, your president even said he would grab women by the pussy and STILL got elected to his job right now. THAT is how low the US society in general still consider women as.

I don't even....

Equality of opportunity is not the same as equality of outcome. You have the opportunity to succeed, whether you do or not is up to you.

One company treating its employees bad is not indicative of the entire nation. The fact that they're receiving backlash from it proves their actions are not sactioned. That would not be the case if women were oppressed.

Saying "your president" indicates that you're not from this country so how is it you feel like you can comment on the status of male/female equality here based solely on whatever media you consume?

[LaughingBanana]

Equality of opportunity is not the same as equality of outcome. You have the opportunity to succeed, whether you do or not is up to you.

One company treating its employees bad is not indicative of the entire nation. The fact that they're receiving backlash from it proves their actions are not sactioned. That would not be the case if women were oppressed.

Saying "your president" indicates that you're not from this country so how is it you feel like you can comment on the status of male/female equality here based solely on whatever media you consume?

Dude...... I just can't.............

First of all, like I said, your country ELECTED a man with a well-known reputation of degrading women, including with comments like "grabbing em by the pussy", to the highest position of being a president and even with such a thing existing you STILL think that the US is a place where equal male and female equality is the standard? Not to mention so many MeToo stories coming up seemingly every day with so many men in power abusing women in so many different areas of life.

Also, that companies around the world in all sort of business treating male more favorably than female is really the common thing to do. It's not "one company", it's "most, if not ALL companies": the world is still defaulting to prefer a man over a women in so many situations. Fuck man, just google all the stories about male-female privilege in workplaces around the world, knock yourself out, there's thousands if not millions of stories out there ready for you to consume. Tou have to be exquisitely blind and ignorant to not be able to see this

Ignorant AND extremely privileged, it seems, judging by your "you have the opportunity to succeed" comment, as if all things are equal right now between whites and non-whites, males and females. You have to be extremely privileged to contend that all things being equal, and things are NOT equal at all, minorities are not having it rougher than non-minorities up there, even when they spend equal amount of energy and time to their non-minorities peers to be successful--HECK, even if they spend MORE energy and time compared to their non-minorities peers.

[Joven]

a whole lotta nothing

If our president is such a sexist the why has he instituted more women into possitions of authority than any other president in history?

We're not talking about companies around the world, we're talking about companies in the US.

Ah the personal attacks. You know absolutely nothing about me. While I have do it better than some I've had to work for everything I have. I haven't been handed anything just because I'm a guy. I've literally had to work my way back from homelessness to a possition of comfortable living so don't even start with that "privileged" garbage.

[LaughingBanana]

If our president is such a sexist the why has he instituted more women into possitions of authority than any other president in history?

We're not talking about companies around the world, we're talking about companies in the US.

Ah the personal attacks. You know absolutely nothing about me. While I have do it better than some I've had to work for everything I have. I haven't been handed anything just because I'm a guy. I've literally had to work my way back from homelessness to a possition of comfortable living so don't even start with that "privileged" garbage.

Yeah, okay.

[Joven]

Yeah, okay.

And there it is, the "I disagree with you so I'm going to disregard everything you say" tactic. Have fun living in your close minded, hate filled world. I hope some day you're able to let go of that hate and enjoy life.

[LaughingBanana]

And there it is, the "I disagree with you so I'm going to disregard everything you say" tactic. Have fun living in your close minded, hate filled world. I hope some day you're able to let go of that hate and enjoy life.

I am not trying to disregard anything. At first I wanted to continue discussing things with you but then again:

I am disinclined to continue discussing about this *in here* because I've been told that this is not the inappropriate place to do so, that what we are discussing are off-topic, and people are uncomfortable with what we're doing, and people don't want us to continue it because of that.

So in the spirit of that, let's just agree to disagree, and move on.

I hope you enjoy your life too, thanks.

[Fawkes]

If our president is such a sexist the why has he instituted more women into possitions of authority than any other president in history?

Because that's not true at all.