Major flaws in healing design.

[Daniolaut]

Apologies, I thought I made it clear that the example given there was to show a similarity in poor suggestion/reasoning. To be clear: no job should be so simple, and there's a bit more to DNC than that.

No you did, I was letting you know your comparison was not even similar by "going completely off topic." Because that's essentially what you did. In my opinion of course.

Yes, and what everyone is saying is that this doesn't work. Even if they reduce all healers to 3 spells, a DPS spell, a heal everyone spell, and a raise. There will ALWAYS be someone who does nothing but press their one DPS ability.

Which I am also aware of. The problem is, as was stated in my original post, its widely accepted and actually encouraged to do this. Force all the healing onto one healer, and let the other healer deal damage.

Sure, there are some healers who work together, but in a pug situation, more often than not, the "better" healer is going to do nothing except cast damage spells, and they are either going to wipe the entire raid and they are going to call everyone horrible players, or the other healer is going to pick up their slack because they don't want to waste time.

Its happened plenty of times.

People do not think you're the troll because you don't want the player to die, people think you're the troll because you are blaming the wrong thing for the death.

No, I'm pretty sure people are calling me a troll, because I don't follow the hive mind of "dps is king" mindset. While watching countless parties wipe, that otherwise shouldn't.

I also wasnt blaming the job. I repeated what everyone else was saying "healing is so boring/flawed" and gave a simple proposed solution. (Moving Feint/addle to healers, and changing all damage taken up debuffs to damage down debuffs.)

Thats literally all I said in my post. The rest is pointless fluff.

If I said:

Thread title:
I have an idea for healing changes.

Thread body:
I came up with an idea to remove feint/addle to protect/shell, to make healing a bit more engaging.

....people would either ignore the thread or just say "no"

I'm very well versed in how the forums work by now.

At i481, 60% of my HP is roughly 87,000. What tank busters outside of EX and Savage will hit hard enough through Vengeance/Raw that a auto-attack will finish them off? Maybe Shiva but there's absolutely no reason to top up a tank to nearly full HP in baby content. Which segues nicely into...



Guess why that is? Healing is trivial in story mode raids. .

Fine.
What I saw exactly. Since I do not parse.
Was the tank was at 67,000 HP roughly.
Then the boss started casting a tank buster.
The mentioned healer only cast glare at this time. Because thats what I saw. At least thats the only thing I saw. I wasnt paying 100% to only them.

Then
After the tank was at 67,000 HP or so.
They dropped to around 1,600 HP.
Then they died.

I never saw said healer cast anything else.

Healing is so trivial in this fight, yet their assize and whatever the other healer was doing resulted in not only the tanks death, but roughly half the party as well.

The duty was cleared with only 4-5 people standing. This only increased the time spent in the raid.

Had the healer healed the tank, instead of doing what you did. deeming it trivial and refusing to heal, the fight would have not lasted nearly as long.

So congrats to you and anyone else who refuses to heal forcing people who actually care, such as that RDM spamming ver-cure or PLD spamming Clemency because healers wont heal

Maybe. Just maybe those "such bad players" doing those things wouldnt have to if healers did their jobs. Just a thought though. Clearly i'm wrong.

And before you go having a knee jerk reaction and say "blah blah blah, you dont need to heal immediatley/top people off." I'm ONE HUNDRED PERCENT aware. I play healer too. I also dont heal people immediately to 100%.

The key point here, the point I am making. Is that healers should pay attention and work as a team.

I wont "just let people die" when I'm healing. I am not parsing. I don't care about parses. I care about clearing, and avoiding needless issues. I push damage as a DPS a tank a healer and I clear fights when the party works together.

The problem I run into is people like this causing needless problems, and thinking they are literally a "god" at the game when they are the furthest from it.