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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    I get your point but I can't let pass such formulation as "social gender norms". Hormones have real impact on brain. I can't let says it is cultural especially since neo-feminist talk a way that despises feminity as if it was something bad or the result of some machist culture. Women in Sweden are, based on feminist criterias, more free to choose than women in asia. What did researchers discover : women in Sweden tend to choose more "feminine" studies when women in asia will choose rather "masculine" studies. Based on current neo-feminist theories, it should be the opposite.

    Now, come back to the OP point. Most gods-like characters are based on mythical sources where males are beast and women are dangerous beauties as a metaphor of the Nature. Is it possible to make more human-male-looking bosses? Of course. But it is not useful to use such words as tawdry or obscene.
    not very true actually, most greek and roman mythology which is considered one of the most well known ones, has LOTS of sexy seminaked males. and none of them are in FFXIV. so it's not a mythology thing. it's the company actively choosing only sexy female inspiration and designs, and not male ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by craybest View Post
    not very true actually, most greek and roman mythology which is considered one of the most well known ones, has LOTS of sexy seminaked males. and none of them are in FFXIV. so it's not a mythology thing. it's the company actively choosing only sexy female inspiration and designs, and not male ones.
    There are far more mythologies than only the greek one... Actually FFXIV refers a lot more to celtic, asian (India included) or Mesopotamian myths. They avoid both Greek/Roman myths and Egyptian myths.

    EDIT : They avoid Arthurian legends too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    There are far more mythologies than only the greek one... Actually FFXIV refers a lot more to celtic, asian (India included) or Mesopotamian myths. They avoid both Greek/Roman myths and Egyptian myths.
    They did have Scylla in the World of Darkness and she's from the Greek mythology the Odyssey:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    They did have Scylla in the World of Darkness and she's from the Greek mythology the Odyssey:
    There are a few other as Sophia but it is noticable there are a lot more asian references (though Shiva is a tricky one since she not refers to the god but to "shiver").
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    There are a few other as Sophia but it is noticable there are a lot more asian references (though Shiva is a tricky one since she not refers to the goddess but to "shiver").
    Maybe they're not avoiding them so much as they haven't gotten to them yet or they just don't want to blow through everything too quickly and run out of content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    They did have Scylla in the World of Darkness and she's from the Greek mythology the Odyssey:
    and.. Cerberus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    and.. Cerberus.
    I forgot about him even though his fight is a lot more difficult than Scylla's. In my defense Cerberus pops up in practically everything so he's easy to overlook while Scylla is an uncommon sight so tends to stand out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    There are far more mythologies than only the greek one... Actually FFXIV refers a lot more to celtic, asian (India included) or Mesopotamian myths. They avoid both Greek/Roman myths and Egyptian myths.

    EDIT : They avoid Arthurian legends too.
    They don't avoid Arthurian theres literally a Knights of the Round boss
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    They don't avoid Arthurian theres literally a Knights of the Round boss
    Well, without Coventina (the Lady of the Lake), Arthur and/or Merlin... Arthurian legends are far more wide then just a round table with twelve folks.

    The problem behind Greek legends is they often involve Zeus and one of his illegitimate sons (or this kind of story) XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    Well, without Coventina (the Lady of the Lake), Arthur and/or Merlin... Arthurian legends are far more wide then just a round table with twelve folks.

    The problem behind Greek legends is they often involve Zeus and one of his illegitimate sons (or this kind of story) XD
    And odins horse isn't problematic?
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