"Elitism" vs "Casualism"

[Liam_Harper]

Everyone is forgetting one key thing. You don’t have to use duty finder. Go make an FC and find players that want to play the way you do. If you don’t want sub optimal runs from time to time then don’t use duty finder.

We aren't forgetting that. Quite a few of us wouldn't step foot in a pug DF if paid. We grab our tomes from hunt trains, FC runs or simply don't bother and level in Squads, Trusts, HoH. Why do you think dps queues are so long? There are tons of players out there with a tank or healer leveled but we aren't going near DF if it means a chance of being told to shut up by an Ice Mage, tissue paper tank or a 0 dps "healer" who can't even heal properly. I run maybe one roulette every 2-3 weeks and often regret it. I don't demand they all change, I just keep away from them.

Most of us want to help. We don't want cutting edge performance from sprouts, deaths happen and are fine and as long as tanks aren't afk or st'ing mobs pulling a pack or two less than usual isn't the end of the world. Even if you play poorly, if you're trying then that's brilliant. We just want to pass on advice and help the team.

It's not that players have to learn to play correctly, you can't force them. But if baffles me when they don't want to. That you queue into a team activity, perform at a quarter your potential, know you're doing so and you're fine with it and intend to stay that way permanently. I can't wrap my head around that.

Hall of the Novice also says that Tanks should pull enemies one by one in smaller chunks of groups instead of aggroing them all lest you get overwhelmed.

Your Trust and Squadron healers do dps, Healer class quests often require dps and you have dps abilities in your toolkit. It's just common sense.

What Yoshi is really saying is that new healers shouldn't feel they have to dps and heal at the same time as they start out. He designed everything below Savage with almost no damage checks. But he never said it's optimal at lv80 or that a 0 dps healer is just as valuable as a 10k dps healer. If you don't do any damage at all you're playing terribly. If you're fine with that, that's up to you, but it's still fact.