Onion Knight (ONK) Limited Job Proposal

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It shifts attention from BLU's hunting down skills, to actual gameplay content with the Limited Jobs, invoking the need for Limited job gameplay content outside of hunting down Blue Magic spells.

Like what?
It sounds like you couldn't just have it run existing content like BLU, because being able to build your own class would trivialize all existing content.
Even something as simple as building DRK's kit but adding lucid dreaming would be nuts.
If the point is to focus on the content you'd use something like this for, can you explain what kind of stuff you have in mind?

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Like what?

Literally the next couple sentences after you cut off my quote.

It sounds like you couldn't just have it run existing content like BLU, because being able to build your own class would trivialize all existing content.
Even something as simple as building DRK's kit but adding lucid dreaming would be nuts.
If the point is to focus on the content you'd use something like this for, can you explain what kind of stuff you have in mind?

Did you read through the skills in the concept in the first post?
Of the 4 DRK skills this ONK would get, none of them use MP.

I admit the skillset I laid out may not be completely balanced, between stacking damage reductions and damage increases (some of which is entirely intentional just as BLU has things like Whistle and Final Sting) there could be combos that would be a bit too OP, but the concept is that it would be no more OP than BLU already is.

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Did you read through the skills in the concept in the first post?
Of the 4 DRK skills this ONK would get, none of them use MP.

I admit the skillset I laid out may not be completely balanced, between stacking damage reductions and damage increases (some of which is entirely intentional just as BLU has things like Whistle and Final Sting) there could be combos that would be a bit too OP, but the concept is that it would be no more OP than BLU already is.

I understand that in your ONK breakdown the 4 DRK skills ONK would get wouldn't use MP. That's not my point.
I was trying to illustrate how even small changes to the jobs as they are cause them to become many times more powerful, so being able to build your own (even if you're limited by what skills you can pick) would created super powerful characters.

Literally the next couple sentences after you cut off my quote.

As for my "Like what?" question.
You said that ONK could "By sharing this content with BLU, both gain from it. A more involved Masked Carnivale, a Limited Job Roulette, perhaps even Limited Job Deep Dungeon access, etc."
What I was trying to illustrate is that I don't believe this sort of stuff would be appropriate for ONK.
An ONK version of the masked carnival? Cool. That's content that meets ONK where it's at.
But your other suggestions... like I said, I feel your ONK would just trivialize all content not made for it.
Rereading my post, I wasn't clear. I was asking you what other kind of custom content you think they could make for this ONK.

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I understand that in your ONK breakdown the 4 DRK skills ONK would get wouldn't use MP. That's not my point.
I was trying to illustrate how even small changes to the jobs as they are cause them to become many times more powerful, so being able to build your own (even if you're limited by what skills you can pick) would created super powerful characters.

Literally already exists in Blue Mage, 84 skills, and you make a build with 24 of them.
This ONK even has exactly 84 skills, which is by complete chance as I only just totalled them up. (although this is based on a level cap of 70, once BLU gets to 70 I expect it'll have more like 94-99 skills, so this ONK actually has fewer skills than BLU would)
So long as those 84 skills are balanced, which is the goal, then there's no issue.

BLU has an abundance of offensive spells which are all very similar with some status spells and a splattering of utility, ONK would have it's skillset weighted more towards tank and healer skills, with more damage reduction, healing and support. Such as taking Third Eye from Samurai, which would fit perfectly on a tank.
Instead of having a bunch of status spells and instant death spells to trivialise content, it can stack up multiple personal mitigations to aid its survival and use things like regens and party mitigation, with a couple of party buffs thrown in on top.

As for my "Like what?" question.
You said that ONK could "By sharing this content with BLU, both gain from it. A more involved Masked Carnivale, a Limited Job Roulette, perhaps even Limited Job Deep Dungeon access, etc."
What I was trying to illustrate is that I don't believe this sort of stuff would be appropriate for ONK.
An ONK version of the masked carnival? Cool. That's content that meets ONK where it's at.
But your other suggestions... like I said, I feel your ONK would just trivialize all content not made for it.
Rereading my post, I wasn't clear. I was asking you what other kind of custom content you think they could make for this ONK.

How?

Limited Roulette: Matches up other Limited Job players.
BLU can already run any duty content at its level, it just can't use DF for it, this would be an avenue for Limited Jobs to use DF. With ONK being just as balanced as BLU, pairing them up shouldn't be an issue. Even if the content ends up being more chaotic and messy, because of the inherent range of skillsets and ability between BLU and then ONK players, as it would be it's own roulette option players would know what they're getting in for, just as they do for MSQ roulette or Mentor roulette, you know it's a gamble. But the upside is that you could use it to tick off the BLU Log or the ONK Log gradually over time without having to PF everything.

Limited Jobs in Deep Dungeons.
Deep Dungeons are already trivial for groups up to a level, but even if Limited Jobs would trivialise it more, I'd suggest making it a seperate avenue. Have Limited Jobs partaking in Deep Dungeons separated off form the other jobs, just as they are in other duties, and have the 'Limited PotD' or 'Limited HoH' when we get there give out different rewards.

These aren't even ONK specific, they're desperately needed content for Limited Jobs, even if that remains only BLU.