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  1. #12031
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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Ok, when Yoshida walks up on stage and says "see! you can be male viera using this rabbit costume!" I'm gonna be asking for my sub gift from you haha.
    Whoa Mate, I didn't promise you no gift lmao.
    But Ill give you the "He was Right" Credit if/when it happens.


    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    As much as I want male Viera, one has to know at what point to realize what's clear, this dev team is at its development limit. Whether FFVII remake is to blame or not, that much is clear.
    Ill be at that point when the game runs out of Playable and fun content. Ill "realize" the dev team is at its limit when the game itself becomes unfun and I dont want to play it anymore. I wont use the Hrothgar (<3) or the Viera as a point of reference when Im still having a blast and wasting money on this MMO even with the whole "Missing Genders" thing, and the Headgear issue.
    I firmly believe YoshiP and the Dev team will do (mostly) right for this game to suceed and be fun. Ill wait for the day they disappoint me to the level I question my Subscription.
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  2. #12032
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Whoa Mate, I didn't promise you no gift lmao.
    But Ill give you the "He was Right" Credit if/when it happens.
    Fair enough.

    Ill be at that point when the game runs out of Playable and fun content. Ill "realize" the dev team is at its limit when the game itself becomes unfun and I dont want to play it anymore. I wont use the Hrothgar (<3) or the Viera as a point of reference when Im still having a blast and wasting money on this MMO even with the whole "Missing Genders" thing, and the Headgear issue.
    I firmly believe YoshiP and the Dev team will do (mostly) right for this game to suceed and be fun. Ill wait for the day they disappoint me to the level I question my Subscription.
    Ah, you misunderstood the "development limit" phrase. What I meant was that it feels like they're struggling to create content; not that they're at their limit of creativity/dedication. They seem to not have enough people to do the basics like new jobs having weapons, and we've barely gotten any new hairstyles even for the "normal" races.
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  3. #12033
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Fair enough.


    Ah, you misunderstood the "development limit" phrase. What I meant was that it feels like they're struggling to create content; not that they're at their limit of creativity/dedication. They seem to not have enough people to do the basics like new jobs having weapons, and we've barely gotten any new hairstyles even for the "normal" races.
    I think they have said before - or at least I've read here before - that they don't actually have enough trained people in-house for things.
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  4. #12034
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I think they have said before - or at least I've read here before - that they don't actually have enough trained people in-house for things.
    It's more like: we want to hire more devs but we can't find job applicants or proper candidates.
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  5. #12035
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    A multi million company like Square enix should be able to create internship programs that train people in these things through university partnerships and such. I'm surprised they haven't done this considering XIV is almost 6 years old. Or if that's too expensive (universities are money-hungry) then why not hire people with a general degree in 3D design and train them for 2 years?

    Today's companies are really missing out on great talent by expecting them to have 200 skills by the time they apply instead of investing on them like companies used to do in the past.
    I'm rooting for World of Warcraft to improve and really challenge FFXIV, Square enix is way too complacent.
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  6. #12036
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    A multi million company like Square enix should be able to create internship programs that train people in these things through university partnerships and such. I'm surprised they haven't done this considering XIV is almost 6 years old. Or if that's too expensive (universities are money-hungry) then why not hire people with a general degree in 3D design and train them for 2 years?

    Today's companies are really missing out on great talent by expecting them to have 200 skills by the time they apply instead of investing on them like companies used to do in the past.
    I'm rooting for World of Warcraft to improve and really challenge FFXIV, Square enix is way too complacent.
    I too am on the sidelines of both games, rooting them on so that one of them finally gets it enough to scare the innovation into the other.
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  7. #12037
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    A multi million company like Square enix should be able to create internship programs that train people in these things through university partnerships and such. I'm surprised they haven't done this considering XIV is almost 6 years old. Or if that's too expensive (universities are money-hungry) then why not hire people with a general degree in 3D design and train them for 2 years?

    Today's companies are really missing out on great talent by expecting them to have 200 skills by the time they apply instead of investing on them like companies used to do in the past.
    I'm rooting for World of Warcraft to improve and really challenge FFXIV, Square enix is way too complacent.
    Its not THAT different from alot of jobs today. Companies want people with Degrees and Experience with Points of Reference so they know what to expect out of the people they hire, much more that the person offers want they want/need. Most employers for a Business of this type and Caliber want somebody already equipped with the tools and Knowhow, instead of Investing in people to learn it after hiring and paying for the schooling to teach them.
    Typical Business Stuff. Always make a Profit, look to go UP, never go Down.

    Sad reality, doesnt matter how much Money a Company has, they view and weigh assets and other stuff way differently then how we think they Should or could.
    And unless we have a Degree and we rank high enough sit at the big table, they arnt gonna listen to us.
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  8. #12038
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Its not THAT different from alot of jobs today. Companies want people with Degrees and Experience with Points of Reference so they know what to expect out of the people they hire, much more that the person offers want they want/need. Most employers for a Business of this type and Caliber want somebody already equipped with the tools and Knowhow, instead of Investing in people to learn it after hiring and paying for the schooling to teach them.
    Typical Business Stuff. Always make a Profit, look to go UP, never go Down.

    Sad reality, doesnt matter how much Money a Company has, they view and weigh assets and other stuff way differently then how we think they Should or could.
    And unless we have a Degree and we rank high enough sit at the big table, they arnt gonna listen to us.
    They're only hurting their bottom line and innovation at the end of the day. They'd rather wait a decade to hire perfect candidates than invest on someone who's close enough. XIV would be a much better product, and probably have a lot more subscribers if they adopted the model I suggested. They can barely create the same amount of content they were creating during Heavensward, that's how strange the situation is with the company nowadays.
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  9. #12039
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    They're only hurting their bottom line and innovation at the end of the day. They'd rather wait a decade to hire perfect candidates than invest on someone who's close enough. XIV would be a much better product, and probably have a lot more subscribers if they adopted the model I suggested. They can barely create the same amount of content they were creating during Heavensward, that's how strange the situation is with the company nowadays.
    I don't think they created a whole lot during HW that didn't fail though. Diadem? Failure. Verminion? Largely a failure too. The first Alexander tier nearly killed the raiding scene, so they brought in someone else for the second and made the final one easier than the previous 2. Aside from the story, HW really didn't have many high notes.
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  10. #12040
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    I too am on the sidelines of both games, rooting them on so that one of them finally gets it enough to scare the innovation into the other.
    It's sorely needed. Companies do have a habit of managing to overcome limitations right around the same time that a legitimate threat pops up in the form of healthy competition. I'm hoping that 5.3 is the start of a trend where FFXIV is more willing to take risks and be a bit bolder in terms of what it offers. As the new generation of consoles arrives, I'm also hoping that many of the game's limitations can be removed at the same time.
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