then they would stay in bronze forever. it's pretty easy to get pastSure if it's the training mode. No if it's ranked. People chucked enough games during tome event in RW and throw enough in FL daily roul just because it doesn't make a diff to the rewards they get. If they were told "Ok you MUST win" then they wouldn't play because it'd take an unspecified amount of time for a proportionately miniscule reward.


And then people who want to climb would simply avoid the mode because they don't want their games thrown, so the majority of people you will get in low elo will be people who will just throw games for fast exp/tomes. Because you would need to get Gold to avoid them, which is a minimum of around 43 wins (if you were to never lose). 43 wins taking into account people throwing games for rewards? Yeah that's not going to work.
FanGathering Mail Rail London Nov 2019 (✓)
Lavigne#0001
PvPaissa Staff - https://discord.gg/sUy86UC
Leader of Reign Community (2004-Present)
theres actually a rank below bronze and thats the hyphen rank. so the hyphen and bronze area would be throwers, then theres silver. not everyones gonna throw tho, theres gonna be some ppl actually playing for fun but are just badAnd then people who want to climb would simply avoid the mode because they don't want their games thrown, so the majority of people you will get in low elo will be people who will just throw games for fast exp/tomes. Because you would need to get Gold to avoid them, which is a minimum of around 43 wins (if you were to never lose). 43 wins taking into account people throwing games for rewards? Yeah that's not going to work.


If you don't think people who throw games won't have a significant impact on low elo; you clearly did not experience Feast in peak garo.
Bearing in mind coming from someone it won't even affect, because I start every season on 1000/Gold anyway from finishing in Diamond.
Community issue. PvP activity on Light has been excellent because we want it to be active and our ladder reflects this, as do the JP ladders), people on other DCs subconsciously go out of their way to discourage people from playing when they repeatedly tell others to let Feast die. They aren't helping the situation. It does matter because the collars and mount/armor are the rewards from playing ranked and still don't seem to entice many to play on the basis of rewards. The issue is more the mode simply not being enjoyable especially due to the attributes you get in a solo queue ranked pvp arena mode. Throwing tomes in doesn't fix this, it just provides the illusion of activity whilst people queue up to get their rewards and get out, thus leaving you exactly back where you started.Yall arguing over whether or not it needs to be a ranked queue detracts from the fact that PVP is dead right now except for Frontlines. I don’t care what queue it is, as long as it attracts players to play the mode. It can be as little as a daily XP reward for all three PVP modes.
FanGathering Mail Rail London Nov 2019 (✓)
Lavigne#0001
PvPaissa Staff - https://discord.gg/sUy86UC
Leader of Reign Community (2004-Present)
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