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  1. #611
    Player HeulGDarian's Avatar
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    Heul Darian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    I've had my friend who plays healers troll me a good bit with Rescue before, but we mess with each other all the time in various ways just because we can. I don't think I've ever been trolled by a random healer though, as a tank or a dps. Every time I have been rescued, or seen them rescue someone else, it has been for a good reason and I let out a sigh of relief afterward since it usually saves lives. It's an invaluable tool in the right hands, but it can definitely be used for evil as well. I just don't see it being used for evil very often at all. Maybe I'm lucky or something. I doubt that very much though.
    The best game to play with your tank friends (and sometimes random jerk tanks)as a healer is how low can you go. :^)

    Teaches you how to be efficient with your heals as well xD
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    Lucy Pyre
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeulGDarian View Post
    The best game to play with your tank friends (and sometimes random jerk tanks)as a healer is how low can you go. :^)

    Teaches you how to be efficient with your heals as well xD
    The how low can you go game is just standard healing, imo. The only HP that matters is the last one.
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  3. #613
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    HadesNight's Avatar
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    Vierys Night
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucy_Pyre View Post
    The how low can you go game is just standard healing, imo. The only HP that matters is the last one.
    I agree with this as a tank main. As long as I don't die, I don't care what a healer does with my health. It's my job to help healers out by doing mechanics properly, and keeping my CDs on cooldown/properly utilized for fights. My health is little to no concern to me in content. Let's just both do our jobs to keep me from losing that last one.

    If I'm doing all that I'm supposed to and still die though? Nah lol...
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  4. #614
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TofuPenguin View Post
    Other than that, I don't see much use for the skill.
    One place it was used fairly extensively was in OS12, as the generally accepted "safe" PUG strat necessitated Rescue yanking one of the tanks across the arena to get them to the opposite side of the map to resolve Hello World properly.
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  5. #615
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    V'rhana Khett
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Hmmm. It's an old thread, I understand, but I wanted to tell my story.

    My husband was tanking Praetorium. One of the healers was evidently buddies with the other tank, as this healer constantly pulled my husband's toon away from mobs and bosses in order for the other tank to take aggro. It happened almost from the first pull til the very end. My man is an extremely easygoing one, so didn't see much point in delaying the run by typing an objection. We were both pleased when that moronic healer died needlessly to some AOE.

    If I had been the tank being jerked all around the freaking dungeon, I'd have been furious enough to leave. I am trying to get over that mentality because the person leaving is the one who pays the price for someone else's trashy behaviour.

    I loathe the evil that can be done with Rescue. Indeed, it seems like the kind of skill that should be reserved for enemies, or PVP. I completely agree with everyone who has indicated being Rescued feels like a slap in the face, even if it's not intended as such. It feels hideously invasive. It is possible that I take my character and myself too seriously. :B

    Despite my loathing of Rescue, I am a career healer, so there have been several occasions on which I wished I had known how to time a Rescue to save someone from a killing AOE. That alone, as someone upthread put it, means I would like to have access to that skill.

    I am glad that the rest of my run-ins with this ability have been benign, or at least well-intended. In fact, my husband was healing in Copied Factory for the first time, and the other healer definitely pulled him out of several deadly situations. I believe that speaks sufficiently of the skill's virtue, but I have absolute empathy for anyone who really hates this weird ability.
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  6. #616
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    Aldora's Avatar
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    C'rysta Zeith
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by flatbear View Post
    I am glad that the rest of my run-ins with this ability have been benign, or at least well-intended. In fact, my husband was healing in Copied Factory for the first time, and the other healer definitely pulled him out of several deadly situations. I believe that speaks sufficiently of the skill's virtue, but I have absolute empathy for anyone who really hates this weird ability.
    Personally, i love Rescue as an ability for healers. But, that's only because i use it in order to prevent another player to get killed by a mechanic. I've had runs of the Puppets Bunker, where other players had difficulty to see which "Cone" at the first boss was safe, or accidently run INTO the Air Raid / Sharp Turn AoE.

    So, all of my Rescue uses are well-intended. Unless a friend is begging me to rescue them off a platform or into an AoE. However, that happened only 2 to 3 times since the skill was released. lol

    However, i totally understand the frustration from the players on the receiving end of it, if we interrupt their casts, yank them out of their Ley Lines, or pull them into the next pack (just to make the run faster). The last one (where the thread has been created for) is something even i find particularly rude. Sure, we all want to clear a duty as fast as possible, so that we can move on to the next piece of content.

    But, if the tank is not pulling fast enough, you can ask politely to pull more. If they are not comfortable with it, don't just force them by pulling them into the next pack. Using "force" is never a good idea.
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  7. #617
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    AceofRains's Avatar
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    Raidrien Ascher
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    I actually like using Rescue and more often than not I’m thanked for using it properly. Many Gap closer abilities like Rough Divide or Aetherial Manipulation are like an enhanced Sprint. The way my bars are set up (controller) I have Sprint on L2-Triangle on all 4 of my right left side shape with bars so some form of sprint is always ready without switching. With gap closers replace Sprint. This way as a healer I’m treating it like a reverse sprint and forcing someone in an AoE to sprint to me. The only time this backfired for me is one time I was in harms way my self- which if I hit the Rescue I’m usually not.

    Maybe I can get pics of my hot bar later to better explain.
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  8. #618
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    Leyna Crosse
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    Goblin
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I mostly play WHM these days, and honestly its the one ability I think really needs to go.
    Yes, I could save someone from an aoe to the face because they chose not to move or were ignorant, but to be frank, thats on them to figure out and deal with the consequences. Not me. And if they intentionally stand in Aoes cuz "deeps", I will let them die.

    That being said, I do try and use it for its intended purpose where and when I can when I'm doing stuff with my FC, but more often than not It's just being used to incorrectly prank or grief people. (Even in my own FC its something of a prank/joke to use it to kill each other for fun.)
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  9. #619
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    Rescue really isn't fine. It's 80% of the time a useless troll button; 19% of the time a "well intended healer screws up your rotation" button; 1% of the time a technical net gain for the group, maybe. I mean seriously, why NOT change it?
    Also, 80% of people make up numbers. It's true. I read that on the internet.
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  10. #620
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    Doki Waku
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 100
    at least give us an /rescueme on /rescueme off option or something to toggle yourself unresuceable.
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