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    Ziero Rehw-bidit
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    Quote Originally Posted by aodhan_ofinnegain View Post
    First off it's very clear you are green with your rant.
    I think his argument has some validity. It isn't fair to dismiss it because of a rant. In a sense, he's right. PLD has a very small pool of pragmatic mitigation.

    The other tanks get at least one other CD, ToB and Equilibrium for WAR, camo and aurora for GNB, DM and AD for DRK (although weak, TBN more than makes up for it). PLD doesn't have that option, unless you're desperate enough to stop all outgoing damage and resort to PoA. Instead, once either rampart or sentinel's been used, you don't have much else except to what's available to the other tanks, and that's not saying much.

    Of course, Hallowed Ground is that special exception. However, since he is green, it can be easily forgiven that he hasn't thought to use it as a regular CD. Still, you can only realistically use it about twice a dungeon for pulls, after which you go back to relying on primarily sentinel and rampart, but those have to be spread out thinly for other pulls. Sheltron kinda sucks until higher levels, and even then, doesn't block nowhere near enough to consider a suitable replacement for a CD.
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    Lucy Pyre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hierro View Post
    I think his argument has some validity. It isn't fair to dismiss it because of a rant. In a sense, he's right. PLD has a very small pool of pragmatic mitigation.

    The other tanks get at least one other CD, ToB and Equilibrium for WAR, camo and aurora for GNB, DM and AD for DRK (although weak, TBN more than makes up for it). PLD doesn't have that option, unless you're desperate enough to stop all outgoing damage and resort to PoA. Instead, once either rampart or sentinel's been used, you don't have much else except to what's available to the other tanks, and that's not saying much.

    Of course, Hallowed Ground is that special exception. However, since he is green, it can be easily forgiven that he hasn't thought to use it as a regular CD. Still, you can only realistically use it about twice a dungeon for pulls, after which you go back to relying on primarily sentinel and rampart, but those have to be spread out thinly for other pulls. Sheltron kinda sucks until higher levels, and even then, doesn't block nowhere near enough to consider a suitable replacement for a CD.
    Dark Mind doesn't really apply here, since most of the time trash mobs are primarily auto attack based and that's physical damage. Aside from that, don't forget that Sheltron can be used back-to-back if you have a full gauge. That's a not-insignificant factor in PLD's cooldown suite, especially if you're pulling a huge group and start the pull with Hallowed Ground as this gives you an extra buffer window of auto attacks to build up said gauge.
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