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    Quintessa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind-Krysvein View Post
    As far as I know, I'm allowed to worry whenever I feel like it.

    Microtransactions are a huge thing in today's gaming market, so it's only natural to be cautious. Furthermore, that good ol' "it's just cosmetics" argument hasn't been a proper argument for ages because, to mirror someone who posted before me, if all the cool-looking stuff ended up in the cash shop, it'd be just as bad as having the strongest gear in there, for there are probably just as many glamour-focused people in the game as there are stats-focused people.

    It's all a matter of perspective.
    Whoa you took my statement both the wrong way and way too personally. I meant no disrespect/ill will/sarcasm or whatever you think I was conveying with that statement.

    Let me say this a different way, there is cause for worry if gear starts showing up there, not glam gear either, like buying current stuff. If you've never played a full p2p game believe me, it's not a good thing.

    Edit: Clearly you have but I stick by my statement still. It's all good so long as they don't go the pay to win route. I've come from 2 MMO that was pretty bad with P2P and they are both dead now.
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    Last edited by Quintessa; 07-02-2020 at 02:57 PM.

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    Drast Vyrkasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quintessa View Post
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    Ah, alright. These forums are so full of sarcastic snarky mcsnarkfaces that at some point you start seeing everyone and everything in that light. My apologies, and no offense taken.

    I've indeed played fully pay-to-win games before (Kingdom Hearts Union Cross, dear lord the gacha was so bad) and yeah, I agree that having the best gear up there for sale in the cash shop would indeed be very, very bad. No disagreement there.

    What I meant to display with my statement was that despite what the game industry has been trying to push for the past decade or so, having "only" all the best cosmetics in there would be just as bad for the playerbase as having the best gear. Strong gear is coveted by people for its value in combat. An amazing glamour item is coveted by people for its value in looking cool/hot/whatever. If the amount of people in the game who wish to look cool equals or trumps the amount of people who wish to beat the hardest battle content, then the perceived value of cosmetics equals or trumps the perceived value of battle gear.

    It's all subjective to what the playerbase considers desirable. And we all know the glam game is very strong in FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    No reward is worth suffering through content you feel is bad. The worst thing the playerbase can do to itself is force-complete the content it hates. It leaves the false impression that despite complaints, players are generally satisfied with the content and it's okay to make more like it. If players stop working on the content even with rewards incomplete (like Pagos when it first came out), it will send a clear sign that changes need to be made.