New Healer concept : Spiritualist

[Crushnight]

Been having thoughts how I would design a new healer in FFXIV so here is my attempt at it.

Weapon: Fan and Prayer Beads

Lore: A hidden Gelmorran art that was thought to be forgotten entirely yet through a miraculous archeological find hope for the art's revival has been kindled, yet the elementals of the Twelveswood forbids the use to anyone but those they deem worthy to bring lasting peace to both the living and the dead.

Starts at lv70.

Job mechanics:
Prayer's Blessing stacks: has a maximum of 3 stacks, no timer, increases next healing spell by 5%/10%/20% based on stacks accumulated and consuming them.

Prayer's Judgement stacks: has a maximum of 3 stacks, no timer, increases next damage spell by 5%/10%20% based on stacks accumulated and consumes them.


Job abilities:

Lv1 Damnation, dmg potency 170, 400 mp, 2.5s cast, 25y range

Lv2 Prayer, cure potency 650, 500 mp, 2.5s cast, 30y range

Lv 4 Commune, consume all current Prayer's Blessing stacks and grant that many Prayer's Judgement stacks also consume all current Prayer's Judgement stacks and grant that many Prayer's Blessing stacks.

Lv8 Salting, DoT, potency 30, duration 30s, 25y range, 400 mp

Lv 12 Revival, 8s cast, 2.5s recast, 2000 mp, 35y range

Lv 15 Salvation, prevents the target from K.O., 5s, 180s cd, 30y range

Lv 20 Spectral Gift, cures self and nearby party members, healing potency 300, 20y radius, 1000 mp

Lv 26 Spectral Blessing, consume all Prayer's Judgement stacks to give target player 1%/2%/4% dmg up for 10s, 60s cd, 30y range

Lv30 Spectral Shield, consume all Player's Blessing stacks to give target player shield strength equal to 2%/4%/10% of their max hp, 60s cd, 30y range

Lv 35 Spectral Flight, teleport to target location healing anyone passed through, cure potency 300, 20y range, 30s cd

Lv40 Living Memory, consume equal amount of both stacks to grant party shield 2%/5%/10% of max hp, 120s cd, 25y radius

Lv45 Calling, deals aoe damage to target and those around it, 140 potency, 2.5s cast, 700 mp, additional effect: slow, duration 10s

Lv46 Salting II, DoT, 45 potency, duration 30s, 25y range, 500 mp

Lv 50 Pacify, prevents next healing spell or next damage spell from consuming respective stacks, 45s cd.

Lv 52 Damnation II, 220 potency, 400 mp, 25y range

[Crushnight]

Lv 54 Guiding Light, instant, 50s cd, heals self and nerby party members and gives a shield 125% of hp restored, cure potency 300, 30s

Lv 56 Holy circle, place a divine circle healing allies while damaging enemies, 120s cd, duration 30s, cure potency 100, damage potency 30, 8y radius

Lv 60 Ancestor\\\\\\'s Answer, consume equal amount of both stacks to grant party 3%/6%/10% dmg up for 15s, 120s cd, 25y radius

Lv 62 Spectral Pact, tether to target party member and share any hp damage incurred evenly, 60s cd, 10s duration, 15y range

Lv 66 Damnation III, potency 280, 500 mp, 25y range, 2.5s cast

Lv 68 Ancestor\\\\\\'s Plea, consumes Prayer\\\\\\'s Blessing stacks and grants HoT, cure potency 100, duration 15s, 60s cd.

Lv 70 Grand Commune, instantly grants 3 stacks of Prayer\\\\\\'s Blessing and Prayer\\\\\\'s Judgement, 120s cd

Lv 72 Damnation IV, potency 300, 500 mp 25y range, 2.5s cast

Lv 72 Salting III, DoT, potency 60, duration 30s

Lv 76 Ancestor\\\\\\'s Wrath, instant, consume all Prayer\\\\\\'s Judgement stacks to damage target enemy, potency 100/150/250, 60s cd, 25y range

Lv 78 Sending, instant, consume all Prayer\\\\\\'s Judgement stacks to damage target and all enemies around it, potency 75/100/150 for 1st target 50% from second target onwards, 30s cd, 25y

Lv 80 Great Convergence, stacks cannot be depleted for spells, duration 15s, 90s cd


Traits:
Lv 2 Holy Damnation, allows Damnation to grant Prayer\\\\\\'s Blessing stacks

Lv 2 Divine Prayer, allows Prayer to grant Prayer\\\\\\'s Judgement stacks

Lv 20 Maim and Mend, increases base dmg and hp restore by 10%

Lv 20 Divine Spectral Gift, allows Spectral Gift to grant Prayer\\\\\\'s Judgement stacks

Lv 40 Maim and Mend II, increases base dmg and hp restore by 30%

Lv 45 Holy Calling, allows Calling to grant Prayer\\\\\\'s Blessing stacks

Lv 46 Salt Levels, upgrades Salting to Salting II

Lv 52 Damnation Nation, upgrades Damnation to Damnation II

Lv 58 Faster Revival, changes Revival base cast from 8s to 6s

Lv 64 Transcended Bonds, 25% chance next healing spell won\\\\\\'t consume Prayer\\\\\\'s Blessing stacks

Lv 66 Damnation Nation II, upgrades Damnation II to Damnation III

Lv 72 Damnation Nation III, upgrades Damnation III to Damnation IV

Lv 72 Salt Levels II, upgrades Salting II to Salting III

Lv 74 Holy Divine Revival, allows Revival to grant 1 stack of Prayer\\\\\\'s Blessing and 1 stack of Prayer\\\\\\'s Judgement.


I\\\\\\'ll be interested in what you all think about it about the only thing i\\\\\\'m hesitating on is Salvation due to how it may be abused but I was having a hard time coming up with a unique Oh No button.

[YusiKha]

How am I supposed to weave? Unless I'm missing something, the only instant-cast GCD is the DoT and I'm seeing a heck of a lot more oGCDs than 2 every 30s.

[Seraphor]

This just looks like WHM with aetherflow to me, especially as it's Gelmorran...

[Mimilu]

You can get pasted the post word limit by editing your post and adding the rest in.

As for the job design, here are my thoughts and questions:
-The job sounds more like a Hingashi job then Gelmorran. It seems very Shinto-inspired (Fan and Prayer Beads for the weapon, the Shubatsu-style DoT, communing with spirits/kami, etc).
-From what I'm seeing, the job looks like its suppose to be slow-but-powerful with its heals.
-Do you gain max Prayer stacks when you cast 1 Prayer/Damnation or only 1 at a time? Are the traits RNG? And do you have a chance to gain stacks when you already have stacks or is it like RDM's Dualcast, where you don't get the buff if you are using the buff?
-From its description, Salvation sounds like WAR's Holmgang, which if it is, it's going to need a far longer cooldown and some kind of high cost or penalty to use, otherwise you're giving the MT a second invuln cooldown to use for free.
-I get why you don't have a regular single-target Burst Heal oGCD, because Prayer being upgraded by stacks is suppose to cover it but I think you need a way to cast it quicker for a clutch heal then. Maybe if a Prayer stack is used, Prayer's cast time becomes 1.5 seconds? Or give it an ability or two that give it more faster or insta-cast capabilities.
-Like YushiKha said, something to weave with DPS wise would be welcome. The easiest way would be to give Salting a burst.

[Jirah]

GRRRRR I need to start trademarking my ideas. I had this very idea years ago for a RPG maker project.

“Starts at 70”
no theirs no logically reason to lock a job this late in the game, didn’t make sense for SHB jobs either

Aetherflow White Mage is what I’m getting from this and the last new Healer jobs already barred too similar to WHM

[Crushnight]

How am I supposed to weave? Unless I'm missing something, the only instant-cast GCD is the DoT and I'm seeing a heck of a lot more oGCDs than 2 every 30s.

Ah yes i see the issue thank you for pointing out, the stuff you miss as you typing it out, I believe lowering Prayer to a 1.5s cast time would allieviate some weaving issues earlier on from the healing side as for Dps side i'm hesistant on making Damnation 1.5s on top of instant cast on Salting but it may have to go that way if I want to keep a lot of these skills as is.

[Crushnight]

This just looks like WHM with aetherflow to me, especially as it's Gelmorran...

Unfortunately that seems to be the intended healer design, Ast always had the stigma of Whm but with cards, ShB just made Sch more close to Whm design on top, so I was working with how the devs are intending healer design and atm it is Whm but with X

[Crushnight]

You can get pasted the post word limit by editing your post and adding the rest in.

As for the job design, here are my thoughts and questions:
-The job sounds more like a Hingashi job then Gelmorran. It seems very Shinto-inspired (Fan and Prayer Beads for the weapon, the Shubatsu-style DoT, communing with spirits/kami, etc).
-From what I'm seeing, the job looks like its suppose to be slow-but-powerful with its heals.
-Do you gain max Prayer stacks when you cast 1 Prayer/Damnation or only 1 at a time? Are the traits RNG? And do you have a chance to gain stacks when you already have stacks or is it like RDM's Dualcast, where you don't get the buff if you are using the buff?
-From its description, Salvation sounds like WAR's Holmgang, which if it is, it's going to need a far longer cooldown and some kind of high cost or penalty to use, otherwise you're giving the MT a second invuln cooldown to use for free.
-I get why you don't have a regular single-target Burst Heal oGCD, because Prayer being upgraded by stacks is suppose to cover it but I think you need a way to cast it quicker for a clutch heal then. Maybe if a Prayer stack is used, Prayer's cast time becomes 1.5 seconds? Or give it an ability or two that give it more faster or insta-cast capabilities.
-Like YushiKha said, something to weave with DPS wise would be welcome. The easiest way would be to give Salting a burst.

-I was inspired by Shamans when making this, so I can get that I might have sent that sorta vibe across, however we have so little information on Gelmorran society it wouldn't be completely out there for them especially as our biggest lore dump for them has been the Palace of the Dead.
-That's the intended idea to build up to more powerful heals and damage if balance stacks well so while the in tial heal is monstrously high compared to cure/benefic 1 it is less powerful than cure/benefic 2 at baseline but more powerful at 3 stacks of healing up.
-No RNG every Prayer cast gives 1 stack of Judgement and every Damnation cast gives a stack of Blessing, it's also why I gave them no timer to fall off allows someone to plan more ahead on stack usage.
-yea the weaving issue is something i'm really going to work on I think lowering Prayer permanently will resolve it from the healing side i'm just angstsy on doing it to the Dps side outside the DoT.

[Crushnight]

GRRRRR I need to start trademarking my ideas. I had this very idea years ago for a RPG maker project.

“Starts at 70”
no theirs no logically reason to lock a job this late in the game, didn’t make sense for SHB jobs either

Aetherflow White Mage is what I’m getting from this and the last new Healer jobs already barred too similar to WHM

the odds XD

Obviously it's how the Devs have been doing it for newer jobs and next one most likely be released for lv 70 baseline, but with anything beyond lv80 as complete unknown i'm hesitant to do skills beyond lv 80.

Again i'm working within what the developers are intending atm with healer design unfortunately that design is whm with X so I tried to make the X as unique as possible with multiple different interactions with abilities, like how some abilities take a specific stack while others take both types etc.