Poll: Which of these FF jobs would you like to see added to XIV next? (Post ShB)

[MirronTulaxia]

Astrologian did exist before FF14 being called Astrologer in FF tactics and was Orran's unique job with his signature skill being Celestial Stasis. Orran is the original Astrologian Job character and the jobs origin in FF series.

Of course Celestial Stasis is Astrologian's LB3 in FF14 as it is Orran's most powerful skill.

The choice of tarot cards for Astrologian most like came from FF8 Orran since he was a psychic that modified Tarot cards in FF8.

1. A singular ability does not make a job. Astrologian is pretty much made up whole cloth.

2. I... have no idea what you're talking about with VIII. Edit: Oh, you're... talking about a super tiny obscure cameo as the justification? Given we know that Astrologian's cards originally started as an attempt to make some sort of mixing system that's not remotely accurate. So you're back to "one skill = a job" which, again, is pretty absurd.

The Scholar has been around since FF3 and the Summoner is a pretty famous job from the series, being not only a jobs in the games where you can choose, but the basis for characters like Rydia, Eiko, Garnet, and Yuna. Even if you criteria is "Jobs in Final Fantasy MMOs" both Summoner and Scholar were in FFXI, so I don't know why you listed them.

Gunbreaker is basically the greatest hits from all the moves from Squall and Seifer from FF8 with some stuff from Lightning here and there.

1. I listed them because while they have the name they're basically invented whole cloth. Which is why I... quite literally said "basically made almost whole cloth". The part where they aren't is that they do have a name previously used, but... that's really about it.

2. Squall/Seifer/Lightning are not jobs, they're characters. Gunbreaker is a new job, no matter which way you slice it.

[EdwinLi]

1. A singular ability does not make a job. Astrologian is pretty much made up whole cloth.

2. I... have no idea what you're talking about with VIII. Edit: Oh, you're... talking about a super tiny obscure cameo as the justification? Given we know that Astrologian's cards originally started as an attempt to make some sort of mixing system that's not remotely accurate. So you're back to "one skill = a job" which, again, is pretty absurd.



1. I listed them because while they have the name they're basically invented whole cloth. Which is why I... quite literally said "basically made almost whole cloth". The part where they aren't is that they do have a name previously used, but... that's really about it.

2. Squall/Seifer/Lightning are not jobs, they're characters. Gunbreaker is a new job, no matter which way you slice it.

I think your idea on what can be a consider a New Job to FF series or not differs from mine.

I define the Job by their history in FF games regardless of what skills they once had or had not as a lot of jobs did not have their well known skill identity until a certain point in FF series but they did start out with their name and first character to use that Job regardless of lacking the skills we know the jobs have today.

For example, Astrologian skills in FF14 is new to it but the history of it goes back to Orran as he was the first character to have the Astrologer/Astrologian Job and they even use his siganture skill being Celestial Stasis as the Astrologian's LB3. By design Astrologian job seems to be based around Orrian in FFT and his FF8 version with his Tarot Cards then after they designed the Tarot card mechanic and skill theme around that in FF14 since back when Astrologer was first introduced its only signature skill was Celestial Stasis and the other skills were Focus, Rush, Stone, and Salve which are skills already used by other jobs or never planned to be used in FF14.

Gunbreaker Job is still a job but was unique to Squall when first introduced in FF8. It was basically a nameless job before FF14 that people just called "the Gunblade Job" until FF14 gave it a name in Shadowbringer. Most skill we see in Gunbreaker has a influence by skills that both Squall and Seifer had back in FF8 mixed in with some new additions being the Light barrier ammo for protection as the Tank defense function.

Red Mage, as a major example that took time to get its well know identity for Dual Casting as it took until FFV to obtain its Dual Cast identity. Before it was just a Hybrid Job that can use both Black and White Magic with a sword.

[Hank_Hotspur]

1. I listed them because while they have the name they're basically invented whole cloth. Which is why I... quite literally said "basically made almost whole cloth". The part where they aren't is that they do have a name previously used, but... that's really about it.

If that's the case then literally all Jobs in every FF game are new because they aren't all exactly the same across every game.