Marketboard PSA

[Jojoya]

Can’t seem to delete the thread, but despite saying I’m not here to argue seems like people are getting upset over an opinion over a virtual marketboard, but go off.

So you've learned a valuable lesson - you can't tell other players what they can do in a free market because they will absolutely take issue with your presumption.

Here's a second valuable lesson to share with you - gil in this game is almost useless. It doesn't matter what price someone chooses to list an item at because there's almost nothing to spend the gil on except items sold by other players. If someone wants to price low, there's nothing wrong with that. If you think you can sell it for higher, then buy their item and relist it higher.

[SeanStealth]

So you've learned a valuable lesson - you can't tell other players what they can do in a free market because they will absolutely take issue with your presumption.

Here's a second valuable lesson to share with you - gil in this game is almost useless. It doesn't matter what price someone chooses to list an item at because there's almost nothing to spend the gil on except items sold by other players. If someone wants to price low, there's nothing wrong with that. If you think you can sell it for higher, then buy their item and relist it higher.

I’m not telling people what to do, that’s the issue here. I’m just stating what could be done. Nowhere did I state and demand people to do things. I literally just said people shouldn’t undercut and tank prices. That’s incredibly different than telling people what to do. Not to mention what I say is not law and people don’t have to follow it. And housing is something to spend Gil on easily. I mean it’s 3m alone for a small house. Not everybody in FF14 has endless supply of money.

[TwistedTea]

I’m not telling people what to do, that’s the issue here. I’m just stating what could be done. Nowhere did I state and demand people to do things. I literally just said people shouldn’t undercut and tank prices. That’s incredibly different than telling people what to do. Not to mention what I say is not law and people don’t have to follow it. And housing is something to spend Gil on easily. I mean it’s 3m alone for a small house. Not everybody in FF14 has endless supply of money.

I get annoyed by undercutters who are not bots, when they undercut massively on items which are selling consistently at certain price.

But 3m is not a lot. You can make that in 1 week or less doing stuff like roulettes as a tank or healer,crafting leves,treasure maps etc.

Housing is not an effective gil sink considering how this game throws gil at you like candy.

Would like to see apartments be upgradeable for gil.

Expensive mounts, glams,minions etc costing 50m gil or more.

[Jin-]

I get annoyed by undercutters who are not bots, when they undercut massively on items which are selling consistently at certain price.

But 3m is not a lot. You can make that in 1 week or less doing stuff like roulettes as a tank or healer,crafting leves,treasure maps etc.

Housing is not an effective gil sink considering how this game throws gil at you like candy.

Would like to see apartments be upgradeable for gil.

Expensive mounts, glams,minions etc costing 50m gil or more.

Wish my roulettes were so generous. 10k gil for tank needed. 3 million per week sounds like a no life mode to me

[TwistedTea]

Wish my roulettes were so generous. 10k gil for tank needed. 3 million per week sounds like a no life mode to me

With adventurer in need:
Expert Roulette - 14k
Level 80 - 14k
Level 50-70 - 14k
Leveling - 20k
Trials - 16k
MSQ - 14k
Mentor -11k
Alliance raid- 19k
Normal raid - 13k

Total: ~135k
Source: https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Duty_Roulette

Not including the gil rewards for completing weekly challenges, selling off the tomestone mats,materia etc

If you combine roulette with treasure maps,hunts even more gil

Crystarium crafting leves will give you a minimum of ~1-2m for 100 leves/HQ hand ins.

[Seraphor]

With adventurer in need:
Expert Roulette - 14k
Level 80 - 14k
Level 50-70 - 14k
Leveling - 20k
Trials - 16k
MSQ - 14k
Mentor -11k
Alliance raid- 19k
Normal raid - 13k

Total: ~135k
Source: https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Duty_Roulette

Not including the gil rewards for completing weekly challenges, selling off the tomestone mats,materia etc

If you combine roulette with treasure maps,hunts even more gil

Crystarium crafting leves will give you a minimum of ~1-2m for 100 leves/HQ hand ins.

That's practically a day job. I get maybe Levelling and Alliance roulettes done most days, and the odd trial roulette.
All of that before you do any actually enjoyable content. That's definitely, as Jin put it, no life mode.

[TwistedTea]

That's practically a day job. I get maybe Levelling and Alliance roulettes done most days, and the odd trial roulette.
All of that before you do any actually enjoyable content. That's definitely, as Jin put it, no life mode.

Look, I barely play the game these days and have stopped crafting for the MB. So most of my gil income is currently coming from the system.

If you don't want to do roulettes, there are Treasure Maps. Even the old maps like Gazelleskins will net you quite a bit before selling the crafting mats.

I get that some players don't enjoy grinding out for gil but at the same time, it's not difficult to make 3m a week.

[MirronTulaxia]

I’m not telling people what to do, that’s the issue here. I’m just stating what could be done. Nowhere did I state and demand people to do things. I literally just said people shouldn’t undercut and tank prices. That’s incredibly different than telling people what to do. Not to mention what I say is not law and people don’t have to follow it. And housing is something to spend Gil on easily. I mean it’s 3m alone for a small house. Not everybody in FF14 has endless supply of money.

There really isn't a good reason to keep prices high though. The items should be priced as low as reasonable, not as high as possible.

[TwistedTea]

There really isn't a good reason to keep prices high though. The items should be priced as low as reasonable, not as high as possible.

Why though?

Do you not value your time?

The market will bear what consumers are willing to pay. If prices are too high,people won't buy consistently until the prices drop. But of course this doesn't take into account botters and people who do not value their time.

People who make 3m a week complaining about me, who has never had more than 3m in the entire time I've played the game, undercutting on the 'basically trash' items I'm just trying to get rid of asap.
First world problems.

Not a complaint. Just an observation. Let's say X is selling for 75k daily, multiple times. It means, it's at the right price for buyers. Undercutting it to 50k is unlikely going to increase the demand significantly.

Also, I noticed your forum join date. It would appear you joined the game around the same time as me...how is it possible in 2 years, you've not had more than 3m considering that the game hands you gil for doing dailies/weeklies?

Perhaps, if you actually learned how to make the gil and the MB, you might not be in this situation.

[Seraphor]

Why though?

Do you not value your time?

The market will bear what consumers are willing to pay. If prices are too high,people won't buy consistently until the prices drop. But of course this doesn't take into account botters and people who do not value their time.



Not a complaint. Just an observation. Let's say X is selling for 75k daily, multiple times. It means, it's at the right price for buyers. Undercutting it to 50k is unlikely going to increase the demand significantly.

Also, I noticed your forum join date. It would appear you joined the game around the same time as me...how is it possible in 2 years, you've not had more than 3m considering that the game hands you gil for doing dailies/weeklies?

Perhaps, if you actually learned how to make the gil and the MB, you might not be in this situation.

Because earning gil isn't a high priority for me.
I'm not interested in housing, or crafting. (but I have levelled crafters for the lore and ability to pentameld, which has actually cost me a few million in crafting gear)

I'm not sure what else I'm supposedly raking in the dosh with. Dailies barely give you enough to cover teleport fees.
I probably make around 1m a month, which gets spent on... general day to day stuff, and occasional gear for levelling jobs or glamour.
Occasionally my FC does maps, and very occasionally I get an expensive mat drop that sells for a million or so, so that's a very sporadic windfall every... 3 months maybe? Obviously it gets spent, because that's what gil is for.
If I ever have more than about 3m, that's usually when I say to myself "great, now I can buy that 1.5m glam piece I've been wanting for months."

My marketboard habits largely consist of drops that are selling for more than 1k a piece, so it's worth considerably more than the vend price, and usually in small quantities. So I'm not getting 50-75k per sale.
Anything less than 1k a piece and I'll probably vend it for pennies.