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    Some don’t. Some are just genuinely there to mess with you. You can sell an item for 150k 8 times in 2 weeks. They come along and craft 50 of them. Fill up their 5 retainers with them and sell them for 45k each. Now 45k might not be enough for your 2/3 sales a week to justify the craft or selling space but to them if they push you out as it’s not worth your time that’s still over 2mil in sales and at 45k they might get 4/5 sales a week and being bots don’t care how long it takes.
    You could buy them up but they’ll just craft another 50 when on and delist for the same price and eventually you’ll be out of pocket and stuck with all those items you’ll need to sell at 44,999 -400 tax. And they’ll still be there at 45k when you sell all yours at a loss.
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    I rather sell the large quantity of items I craft quicker and not have to worry about playing undercut clicker. If someone undercuts you are you are annoyed buy out the item and wait for prices to get to the point you find reasonable.

    Overall I am not hurting for gil, I just enjoy crafting, and not the type of person that will give items away for nothing so I massively undercut. If the trend continues so be it, not my prob.
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    I'm a buyer, and I prefer the prices low. I also don't craft. So I gotta get some glam pieces off of there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanStealth View Post
    Can’t seem to delete the thread, but despite saying I’m not here to argue seems like people are getting upset over an opinion over a virtual marketboard, but go off.
    So you've learned a valuable lesson - you can't tell other players what they can do in a free market because they will absolutely take issue with your presumption.

    Here's a second valuable lesson to share with you - gil in this game is almost useless. It doesn't matter what price someone chooses to list an item at because there's almost nothing to spend the gil on except items sold by other players. If someone wants to price low, there's nothing wrong with that. If you think you can sell it for higher, then buy their item and relist it higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    So you've learned a valuable lesson - you can't tell other players what they can do in a free market because they will absolutely take issue with your presumption.

    Here's a second valuable lesson to share with you - gil in this game is almost useless. It doesn't matter what price someone chooses to list an item at because there's almost nothing to spend the gil on except items sold by other players. If someone wants to price low, there's nothing wrong with that. If you think you can sell it for higher, then buy their item and relist it higher.
    I’m not telling people what to do, that’s the issue here. I’m just stating what could be done. Nowhere did I state and demand people to do things. I literally just said people shouldn’t undercut and tank prices. That’s incredibly different than telling people what to do. Not to mention what I say is not law and people don’t have to follow it. And housing is something to spend Gil on easily. I mean it’s 3m alone for a small house. Not everybody in FF14 has endless supply of money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanStealth View Post
    I’m not telling people what to do, that’s the issue here. I’m just stating what could be done. Nowhere did I state and demand people to do things. I literally just said people shouldn’t undercut and tank prices. That’s incredibly different than telling people what to do. Not to mention what I say is not law and people don’t have to follow it. And housing is something to spend Gil on easily. I mean it’s 3m alone for a small house. Not everybody in FF14 has endless supply of money.
    I get annoyed by undercutters who are not bots, when they undercut massively on items which are selling consistently at certain price.

    But 3m is not a lot. You can make that in 1 week or less doing stuff like roulettes as a tank or healer,crafting leves,treasure maps etc.

    Housing is not an effective gil sink considering how this game throws gil at you like candy.

    Would like to see apartments be upgradeable for gil.

    Expensive mounts, glams,minions etc costing 50m gil or more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    I get annoyed by undercutters who are not bots, when they undercut massively on items which are selling consistently at certain price.

    But 3m is not a lot. You can make that in 1 week or less doing stuff like roulettes as a tank or healer,crafting leves,treasure maps etc.

    Housing is not an effective gil sink considering how this game throws gil at you like candy.

    Would like to see apartments be upgradeable for gil.

    Expensive mounts, glams,minions etc costing 50m gil or more.
    Wish my roulettes were so generous. 10k gil for tank needed. 3 million per week sounds like a no life mode to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin- View Post
    Wish my roulettes were so generous. 10k gil for tank needed. 3 million per week sounds like a no life mode to me
    With adventurer in need:
    Expert Roulette - 14k
    Level 80 - 14k
    Level 50-70 - 14k
    Leveling - 20k
    Trials - 16k
    MSQ - 14k
    Mentor -11k
    Alliance raid- 19k
    Normal raid - 13k

    Total: ~135k
    Source: https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Duty_Roulette

    Not including the gil rewards for completing weekly challenges, selling off the tomestone mats,materia etc

    If you combine roulette with treasure maps,hunts even more gil

    Crystarium crafting leves will give you a minimum of ~1-2m for 100 leves/HQ hand ins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanStealth View Post
    I’m not telling people what to do, that’s the issue here. I’m just stating what could be done. Nowhere did I state and demand people to do things. I literally just said people shouldn’t undercut and tank prices. That’s incredibly different than telling people what to do. Not to mention what I say is not law and people don’t have to follow it. And housing is something to spend Gil on easily. I mean it’s 3m alone for a small house. Not everybody in FF14 has endless supply of money.
    There really isn't a good reason to keep prices high though. The items should be priced as low as reasonable, not as high as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MirronTulaxia View Post
    There really isn't a good reason to keep prices high though. The items should be priced as low as reasonable, not as high as possible.
    Why though?

    Do you not value your time?

    The market will bear what consumers are willing to pay. If prices are too high,people won't buy consistently until the prices drop. But of course this doesn't take into account botters and people who do not value their time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    People who make 3m a week complaining about me, who has never had more than 3m in the entire time I've played the game, undercutting on the 'basically trash' items I'm just trying to get rid of asap.
    First world problems.
    Not a complaint. Just an observation. Let's say X is selling for 75k daily, multiple times. It means, it's at the right price for buyers. Undercutting it to 50k is unlikely going to increase the demand significantly.

    Also, I noticed your forum join date. It would appear you joined the game around the same time as me...how is it possible in 2 years, you've not had more than 3m considering that the game hands you gil for doing dailies/weeklies?

    Perhaps, if you actually learned how to make the gil and the MB, you might not be in this situation.
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    Last edited by TwistedTea; 06-19-2020 at 09:44 PM.

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