Healers who rescue pull tanks into mobs.

[Coletergeist]

Besides, I'm sure the healer would probably prefer a little taste of his own medicine to being reported. If Rescue pulling stops working out exactly how the healer wants it to then he may eventually stop doing it.

What about the other suggestions being given to you, like talking to the healer? Jesus, it's like you think in white and black. Are you trying to *not* act like an adult? You're getting yourself quickly blacklisted for acting so immature. I know for one, I'd feel bad for any healer that groups up with you because of this attitude you seem to have.

But then I'd assume you were probably like, 12 or something and just leave it be, and simply apologize to the healer on your behalf. :P

[Awha]

Letting the healer die certainly isn't the "bigger man; better person" way to handle it, but I also don't feel like it's necessarily out of bounds. The healer cast the first stone, threw down the gauntlet, etc. and I don't feel like anyone is ethically obligated to turn the other cheek in response.

it is an interaction within a video game personally I do not think anyone is ethically obligated to do anything. All boils down to a personal response. With that said tanks in this game need to come to terms with the fact that overall in dunegons a tanks role is not that complex and maintaining aggro is not a difficult task, even if one gets disoriented.

A tank has no excuse to not being able to maintain or establish aggro in this game. Our aggro generation is simply too massive. I mean if a player wants to play like shit that is fine, I have no issue with that, I just wish people were honest about it. This is an issue of control that is all, which is not bad, but it is petty. Someone stepped on your toes and you want to get back at them fair, but why seek a form of a validation from others? Just own up to being a prick. We all have our moments of petty vengeance. I often refuse to heal people that eat avoidable damage. Could I easily heal them and go on with my day? Yup, but I rather watch them die because I am a prick. You are a prick for letting a healer die, and the healer is a prick for pulling you into mobs.

We are all pricks in one way or another.

[Shalan]

I understand what you're saying. What I'm saying isn't necessarily what the "right" thing to do is.

For instance, say someone walks up to you and punches you in the face. Asking why he did that and attempting to talk it out is the mature way to handle it; I'm just saying I wouldn't fault you for punching him back, even if it makes the situation worse. He started a fight with you, and I'm not one of those people who believes retaliating makes you "just as bad as he is." Retaliating is a natural response to being provoked.

But pulling you wouldn't even be remotely like you getting punched. If someone punches you in the face punching them back isn't an escalation, it's retaliation.
A healer pulling you into a group and you letting them die *is* and escalation. It's neither difficult nor dangerous to pull another group with your CDs and their healing, you're not really in much increased danger.

So it would be more like they insulted you and you jumped straight to punching them rather than retaliating (I.E. insulting them back) or talking it out.

[Goji1639]

What about the other suggestions being given to you, like talking to the healer? Jesus, it's like you think in white and black. Are you trying to *not* act like an adult? You're getting yourself quickly blacklisted for acting so immature. I know for one, I'd feel bad for any healer that groups up with you because of this attitude you seem to have.

But then I'd assume you were probably like, 12 or something and just leave it be, and simply apologize to the healer on your behalf. :P

If someone is inconsiderate then I'm willing to be inconsiderate back. If you believe this stance of mine would cause tension between us if we grouped together then by all means Blacklist me.

Honestly, having people I wouldn't want to group with removing themselves from my Party Pool has simply been an unexpected bonus. I encourage this trend to continue. Maybe by the time this thread is over the Blacklisting function will have removed most of the Rescue pullers for me.

But pulling you wouldn't even be remotely like you getting punched. If someone punches you in the face punching them back isn't an escalation, it's retaliation.
A healer pulling you into a group and you letting them die *is* and escalation. It's neither difficult nor dangerous to pull another group with your CDs and their healing, you're not really in much increased danger.

So it would be more like they insulted you and you jumped straight to punching them rather than retaliating (I.E. insulting them back) or talking it out.

Erm, punching someone back is definitely an escalation and retaliation, same as letting the healer die would be. Both responses aren't necessarily mature and will probably make the situation worse, but people retaliate when provoked. It's the person who initially provoked who is the most at fault imo, though.

[Mavrias]

If someone is inconsiderate then I'm willing to be inconsiderate back. If you believe this stance of mine would cause tension between us if we grouped together then by all means Blacklist me.

Honestly, having people I wouldn't want to group with removing themselves from my Party Pool has simply been an unexpected bonus. I encourage this trend to continue. Maybe by the time this thread is over the Blacklisting function will have removed most of the Rescue pullers for me.

You do realize blacklisting doesn't prevent them from being matched with you via duty finder, right?

[Goji1639]

You do realize blacklisting doesn't prevent them from being matched with you via duty finder, right?

Oh really, then what's the point?

[Elkanah]

You do realize blacklisting doesn't prevent them from being matched with you via duty finder, right?

Underrated comment-- and sadly the only thing that really bothers me about the blacklist option.

[Mavrias]

Oh really, then what's the point?

Blacklisting someone prevents you from seeing any of their chat messages (and vice versa), and prevents them from joining any party finder that you create (it does not prevent them from joining a PF if you are not the leader). Additionally, party finders made by that person are placed at the very bottom of the list and greyed out for you.


So pretty much the only way for them to communicate that they want you to pull more in a duty finder party is for them to rescue you.

[Goji1639]

Blacklisting someone prevents you from seeing any of their chat messages (and vice versa), and prevents them from joining any party finder that you create (it does not prevent them from joining a PF if you are not the leader). Additionally, party finders made by that person are placed at the very bottom of the list and greyed out for you.


So pretty much the only way for them to communicate that they want you to pull more in a duty finder party is for them to rescue you.

Soooo... Basically Blacklisting is a meaningless threat that would have no real impact on me one way or another? Cool.

Also, sounds counterproductive if they want big pulls.

[Mavrias]

Soooo... Basically Blacklisting is a meaningless threat that would have no real impact on me one way or another? Cool.

Also, sounds counterproductive if they want big pulls.

Pretty much. I just use it to mute bigots and filter people who can't do mechanics or dps out of savage reclear parties. Its useless for anything else.