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  1. #11
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    BarretOblivion's Avatar
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    Tamamo Cat
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    Hyperion
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    While I understand the complaint to a point, GNB's Gnashing Fang+Continuation burst range is 3y, which is standard melee range, and is in this matter no different from the other tanks asides from PLD with their burst periods.
    DRK spamming Bloodspiller, Edge and other oGCDs during Delirium require being in the 3y melee range, same with WAR and Inner Release Fell Cleave spam.
    So then what is so different about GNB's burst to warrant a greater range cushion during it over the other tanks?
    There isn't, infact it's even less of an actual complaint because the continuation combo is unique as it has a smaller buffer for the skills to go out than any OGCD, resulting in a very easy/managable ability for a GNB to double weave without clipping even with high Skill Speed. This is a non-issue.
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  2. #12
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    Khimer's Avatar
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    Chimer Fateful
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    While I understand the complaint to a point, GNB's Gnashing Fang+Continuation burst range is 3y, which is standard melee range, and is in this matter no different from the other tanks asides from PLD with their burst periods.
    DRK spamming Bloodspiller, Edge and other oGCDs during Delirium require being in the 3y melee range, same with WAR and Inner Release Fell Cleave spam.
    So then what is so different about GNB's burst to warrant a greater range cushion during it over the other tanks?
    Not sure about DRK but warrior's burst doesn't require you to weave ogcds after every single gcd, you can very comfortably move the boss while spamming fell cleave, because boss moves to you inbetween your gcds. Yes, you do need to use onslaught and upheaval but those are only 2 ogcds and onslaught there is even more of a help than a hindrance, as you can distance yourself enough from boss to make him move and gap close immediately to not lose a gcd. I imagine for drk you also don't need to spam edge ogcds between bloodspillers in delirium, as you can probably delay their use after, unless you're capped on mana and you absolutely have to dump it. On gnb on the other hand you can't just drop one of your ogcds in continuation and continue with your gnashing fang combo, you will just lose that ogcd. Not to mention bursts on war and drk come up every 90 sec (maybe 60 sec on drk, but im pretty sure you still delay carve and spit or abyssal drain a bit without losing a use if things get too busy), while gnb's burst is 30 sec and such a short period perfectly aligns to having to move the boss almost in every fight this tier, and it gets even more hectic every 60 seconds.

    I like the way gnb plays now, and i don't want anything about its playstyle to change, but increasing the range on continuation ogcds doesn't make gnb easier or braindead, it just makes it more comfy, QOL sorta thing, i just genuinely don't see the reason why they SHOULDN'T do it.
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  3. #13
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    ShariusTC's Avatar
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    Shadelia Sunshooter
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 100
    i dont hve any problem to manual do my continuation, even when i am OT in e5s
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  4. #14
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    Kalin Orthos
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Oh. My lord.

    Why are you trying to take away one of the very few things that give Gunbreaker any sort of unique flavor? Just hit the damn Continuation button.
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  5. #15
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    Quintessa's Avatar
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    Saturn Vitrell
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 18
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    If you do this, people will realise that Continuation is just Inner Release. Only critical difference at the moment is that you roll your face across the keyboard instead of smashing your face against a single key.
    ...

    I had to imagine myself doing this before trying it. No.
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  6. #16
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    Character
    Alexya Ultor
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BarretOblivion View Post
    This is not a popular complaint at all for GNB and isn't an issue except for players who don't wait a .25 sec interval before moving out of range of the boss to pull. There are far more important issues we should be discussing than such a minor inconvience.
    Seriously. Just because OP calls it a "popular complaint" doesn't mean it actually is. I've literally never heard a single GNB complain about Continuation in any way. It's no different than any other oGCD for any other job. SAM deals with it with Shinten, MNK with Chakra, NIN with DwaD and Assassinate, WAR and DRK with their oGCD's....this isn't a problem unique to GNB and certainly doesn't warrant a buff to GNB in any way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    I still wouldn't do it [double weave oGCD's on GNB] because there is a good chance to mess up the rotation and it can easily cause a wipe because of server ticks.

  7. #17
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    Ultros
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    Bard Lv 100
    At this rate we should have a “auto play” mode so the tank can worry about moving instead of playing the game
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  8. #18
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    Karuru Karu
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    At this rate we should have a “auto play” mode so the tank can worry about moving instead of playing the game
    I have to move by myself? D:

    Honestly, FF12 was a lot of fun, and that game actually did had auto play >.>
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  9. #19
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    Shadelia Sunshooter
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    I have to move by myself? D:

    Honestly, FF12 was a lot of fun, and that game actually did had auto play >.>
    auto play mode in FF12 is fu because you build your own auto play, in FF13 that not because AI will decide which action your character does, if continuation become auto play it will reduce number of action you need when control GNB and making that job become boring, the fun from GNB that you can do your burst combo each 30 second unlike other tank when you need to wait like a minute for their burst come up
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  10. #20
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    Character
    Naoki Sparks
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    I'm a new GNB and I have to say continuation is what made me want to make it my main tank job.
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