Healers who rescue pull tanks into mobs.

[Awha]

Guys let us be real, I ran into a healer that put it perfectly. Recuse is mostly a leash for stumbling, stubborn, or scared tanks.

It is working as intended.

[Arillyn]

I have been rescued by healers to pull me out of animation lock. I was grateful for it. I've been rescued when trying to get out of something or too something and wasn't going to make it. I was thrilled the healer used it on me. I have been rescued into aoe because a healer didn't realize i was on my way out and they pulled me back into it. They apologized without me even saying anything.

I have used rescue to pull ppl into my healer bubble when the big bad was about to go off. I have also rescued someone by mistake before and I apologized for that. Do my friends and I troll each other with rescue sometimes? Yes but it's when we are in a party together.

Earlier I saw someone say no one trolls with shirk - are you kidding me? Yes, I've seen tanks shirk onto a healer before - because why? I've seen tanks shirk onto dps before. It doesn't happen very often, but I have seen it. (On a side note my friends and I have trolled each other with shirk too, but again when we are in a party together.)

Both shirk and rescue are very useful. They shouldn't be removed. If someone is trolling you with it and you ask them to stop and they don't, then report for harassment.

[Lium]

I’ve only used Rescue once, and it was on a bard who was standing all the way out in Antarctica after some nasty group wide damage and I was trying to heal everyone back to full. This is a common problem with ranged.

On DPS, I’ve been rescued a few times. Once it saved my life when a healer ran over to the last piece of furniture on the last boss in Grand Cosmos and pulled me over to it when I had the blue fire debuff. That was clutch. Once it almost got me killed when a healer accidentally rescued me into some AOE. And once I was playing BLM and I was rescued to healer because I, too, was standing in Antarctica and out of heal range

[jameseoakes]

Guys let us be real, I ran into a healer that put it perfectly. Recuse is mostly a leash for stumbling, stubborn, or scared tanks.

It is working as intended.

That sounds a lot like harassment

[KalinOrthos]

Rescue poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and brought a plague onto our houses.

[EaMett]

Assuming a healer can handle a wall to wall pull is a gambit. I've gone literally 15-20 seconds without receiving a single heal on a wall to wall; if I wasn't severely overgeared I'd be dead.

That's exactly what they should be doing. If they can do that consistently they're a great healer, tell me who it was so I can congratulate him/her.

Late to the party but rescue is a good skill. I've rarely seen it used for trolling other than amongst friends. But I can't count how many times I've seen it used properly. Sure, sometimes, due to lag and server ticks, etc.. the good intentions still lead to a missed use of the skill but that's part of learning, trial and error.
Do people troll sometimes? I'm sure they do. Just like people troll with shirk and other skills. Doesn't mean the skills are bad, need to be reworked, or even removed. By those standards, we would need to remove all AoE casts out of combat... How many people troll others with holy in main city hubs.

Also, tanks don't set the pace in dungeons. Healers do. If a healer pulls you into a pack of mobs, it's rude, they could just ask you to pull more. But they pace the run. As a tank you have literally nothing more to do, you just do your aoe rotation as per usual, you do your mitigation as per usual, you dodge a tad more. More mobs only really affect the healer. If the healer wants to go pull the next pack and bring it to you, their choice. There' a reason veteran tanks usually don't care much for extra pulls. As long as people bring the mobs to them all it does is make the run faster.
If I get yanked into more mobs, I understand "you can pull more, I got you" and I do so. End of the story, nobody needs to get their panties in a bunch, everyone is happy, I don't need to put more effort into it. 100% win win.

[Lium]

Posting on mobile so it cut off my previous post. Apologies.
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I’ve never seen it used to troll, though. That’s weird. When I’m healing I do believe the tank sets the pace. I’ve had tanks say at the start of the run, “I’m gonna pull big,” then proceed to YOLO pull everything. I can handle it though. I’ve also had tanks ask me if big pulls are okay. I always say “Sure.” Then we steamroll it.

OP makes it sound like being troll rescued is a common occurrence. Like I said I’ve never seen it happen, but if it does just tell them to stop it.

[Catwho]

Rescue has saved my tuckus a handful of times. Notably Thunder God in Orbonne, when I ran to the wrong donut and didn't have time to get to the correct one, or I wasn't going to escape someone's follow-AOE thingy in time.

[Awha]

That sounds a lot like harassment

In what sense? Not trolling, I genuinely think my what view as what is considered harassment and is not differs greatly from the norm.

Posting on mobile so it cut off my previous post. Apologies.
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I’ve never seen it used to troll, though. That’s weird. When I’m healing I do believe the tank sets the pace. I’ve had tanks say at the start of the run, “I’m gonna pull big,” then proceed to YOLO pull everything. I can handle it though. I’ve also had tanks ask me if big pulls are okay. I always say “Sure.” Then we steamroll it.

OP makes it sound like being troll rescued is a common occurrence. Like I said I’ve never seen it happen, but if it does just tell them to stop it.

I would not say it is common per-se, but if it happens often to a person that properly means they are either doing something wrong, or unreasonably slow. I do not see it happen often either, but I also do not run into many slow tanks either, and when I do run into them I often try to silent remove them from the group, instead of trying to force them into something they do not wish to do. I do think that is the general view among the community, better to remove the player instead of forcing them into something.

[Gemina]

Why on earth are people always missinterpreting?

I wrote : It does can

I didn't wrote : It always is.

If you read carefully, I even started by "at the release".

Because YOU don't use it for trolling doesn't mean it never happens/happened.

Even here in this thread, few heals confirm it can be used for trolling and it IS used for trolling (when they play with their FCs mates BUT they confirm it does can be).

We can dily dally around always vs can be if we don't want to get anywhere. But I think ultimately where we are getting at is this `trolling` issue is made bigger than it actually is.

I can think of gripes for each respective role in the party that "ruin" my experience. Things I have no control over. Tanks have shirked me as both healer and DPS. SMN mains have put condescending remarks in their raise macros. At any given time, a player can use their assignment to deliberately wipe the raid.

These instances of "trolling" as you call it is part of the memo world. It doesn't excuse this behavior and that's why there are rules against it whether or not you feel they are enforced. If players want rescue deleted or some weird option that prevents it, then we start this road where the devs have to coddle every little request instead of relying on players to be freaking responsible. It is utterly ridiculous. Again, the ability is on a 120s CD. If the healer misuses it on you, just move on.