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  1. #81
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
    I've had instances where healers rescued me towards mob pulls and I appreciated it every time, since it was a clear sign that I can and should pull more, while otherwise uncertain.
    You gotta be playing. You'd think typing a few words into chat would save a CD and be a much more efficient means of communication. But then again using the chat could get you banned in this game.
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    WHM | RDM | DNC

  2. #82
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    Tabi Fox
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    You gotta be playing. You'd think typing a few words into chat would save a CD and be a much more efficient means of communication. But then again using the chat could get you banned in this game.
    But at the same time the easiest way to show you dislike someone is by doing an obscene gesture for the respective culture. Like here in the US giving someone the middle finger is the fastest way to communicate contempt. xD
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  3. #83
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    Kiro Isamu
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    You gotta be playing. You'd think typing a few words into chat would save a CD and be a much more efficient means of communication. But then again using the chat could get you banned in this game.
    Rescue during battle seems like a much more efficient way to communicate. Typing takes longer and will likely waste or delay a GCD and there's also the chance that I don't pay attention to the chat. Note that this was back when I was less confident as a tank and likely during some particular lvl 50 and leveling dungeons which can't always be wall to walled easily. When you don't remember the dungeon you realize how much you can pull as you progress, healer might realize this sooner since they have more information (their capability + how much damage tank is taking) so me getting a rescue is the most efficient way to set the right pace.
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    Last edited by SamRF; 06-15-2020 at 11:30 PM.

  4. #84
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    Larek Darkholme
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    If tank pulls the whole dungeon (which is totally fine, love holy spam) and I put an Asylum at his feet he better try to stay in.
    Otherwise I'd use rescue, just to send the message that the bubble if FOR HIM so I can Holy for safely.

    Sue me?
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

  5. #85
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
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    Why on earth are people always missinterpreting?

    I wrote : It does can

    I didn't wrote : It always is.

    If you read carefully, I even started by "at the release".

    Because YOU don't use it for trolling doesn't mean it never happens/happened.

    Even here in this thread, few heals confirm it can be used for trolling and it IS used for trolling (when they play with their FCs mates BUT they confirm it does can be).
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    Last edited by Eldevern; 06-15-2020 at 11:46 PM.
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    La normalité n'est que la moyenne de nos folies individuelles.
    Normality is just an average. I'm the weird, you're the bizarre.

  6. #86
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    Saturn Vitrell
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    'It does can' makes no sense and is probably why it got misinterpreted.
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  7. #87
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    Cain Andleft
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    Why on earth are people always missinterpreting?

    I wrote : It does can

    I didn't wrote : It always is.

    If you read carefully, I even started by "at the release".

    Because YOU don't use it for trolling doesn't mean it never happens/happened.

    Even here in this thread, few heals confirm it can be used for trolling and it IS used for trolling (when they play with their FCs mates BUT they confirm it does can be).
    If healers are rescuing a player often and this happens to the player in multiple different groups in multiple different runs, it's likely that there's clearly something the player is not aware of in the game that all these other healers are aware of. Rescue being on a 120 cooldown isn't spammable and requires a conscious planned effort due to its slow animation. If it the skill was used to troll, report those players for misusing the skill, but the skill itself is not at fault because it doesn't negate the fact that it can be used to save a player.

    The only times I've seen healers misuse rescue is when you piss them off or intentionally troll them. Don't piss off your healers. They are not healbots who will adjust to your every whim - they're players.

    If they take away RDM's backflips since they backflip over the stage, or BLM's Leylines/between the lines, Aetherial Manipulation to encourage BLM to start dodging mechanics and any other job with a disposition, I'll be fine if they took away healer's rescue.

    Sounds like a terrible idea? That's because it is. Rescue can be very useful when used correctly, but so can RDM's backflips to dodge mechanics. However, just because they can cause deaths, doesn't mean their usage should be taken away. The same thing applies here. I've seen way more good on rescue than bad exactly because of how many people who just refuse to do mechanics or stand in AoE Heals.
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  8. #88
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    Avidria's Avatar
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    Avi Taro
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TyrTry View Post
    Rescue is fine. We can't change every skill everytime a group of fudgenuggets decide to troll with it.
    It's not fine, and it's not just because of people using it to screw with people (which I've only really seen maybe once not counting my friends screwing with each other ofc). The delay on the spell is laughably bad, to the point where if you don't use it before it's needed it's likely to be a waste of a cooldown. It needs to be fixed so it can actually be used as a reactive spell reliably enough to even feel worth it.

    Anyway yeah if a healer I don't know starts rescuing me into mobs that's annoying af, especially if there's a reason that I am where I am. Even my friend has yanked me away from mobs I hadn't actually picked up yet before, which meant having to run back anyway or let them smack on somebody else til they caught up. Not a huge deal because then I at least knew he was a competent healer and it wouldn't get us killed, but still a bit annoying. Would be far moreso with a stranger.
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    Last edited by Avidria; 06-16-2020 at 12:01 AM.
    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

  9. #89
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quintessa View Post
    'It does can' makes no sense and is probably why it got misinterpreted.
    Well, I've been taught that "do" can be used for emphasize. Maybe it doesn't work with "can". But still, "can" never means "always is".
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    Last edited by Eldevern; 06-16-2020 at 12:21 AM.
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    Normality is just an average. I'm the weird, you're the bizarre.

  10. #90
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    Saturn Vitrell
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    You were taught right, however it doesn't work with the helping verb 'can' and a native speaker(like me) you're more likely to hear it used with "be".

    /endgrammarlesson
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