Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Frizze]

So, there is a realization that I have had a long time coming, but only recently fully acknowledged to myself: I am bad at high end Final Fantasy duties.

This isn't me fishing for pity, but me accepting this fact and getting these thoughts out here. What really caused this realization was me playing Eden. I didn't have the reflexes to keep up with the new mechanics, and I died a lot. One of the people in the party told the healer "Do not raise them, it's not worth the trouble".

You might be right - you are the only one potentially reading this who was likely there. Ill just point out that while sometimes "reflexes" is the issue, sometimes its more an issue of recognition of what the new mechanic is asking you to do. Lets look at the bird-beam mechanic from E7(Iconoclasm). In normal mode there are 3 versions of this attack that get used through the fight. The first version has safe spots you can stand in. Getting there is reflexes(as is moving to the second safe spot after the first attack). Seeing the safe spots in time to move is recognition. Second pattern, there are no safe spots and now you have a debuff on you. If you read the debuff, it says that getting hit with the same color is bad. It also says that when you get hit it will change polarity. So again, moving in time to align with opposite color birds is in the reflexes(repeatedly as this wave tends to hit 3 or 4 times). Identifying your debuff and the ideal places to stand is back to recognition. Final pattern is no safe spot with debuff, and with a set of portals behind and alongside you so that youre getting blasted from the side just after the hit from the front. This pattern is all recognition. You have almost 10 seconds to get into position before the attack goes off, so quick movement isnt the issue. But mentally you have to note your debuff, identify a column with opposite birds, see which birds will be going into/coming out of which portals, remember that your debuff will flip after the first hit, then identify into a row where the correct birds will come out(in this case, the color of the buff you started with), and finally get into that correct square. Ive seen plenty of people who recognize and get into the right square within the first 2 seconds. Ive also seen more then enough who take most of 8 or 9 seconds to figure it out and are running into safety as the attack is going off(safe is safe, getting there earlier just makes it easier to go back to attacking). Then you have the group of people who just dont get it at all. They have probly a 50-50 chance of guessing a good square(more like 25% if they havent figured out the debuff at all) - and they die when theyre wrong.

So if the answer is that youre moving a little more slowly, the solution is to make sure that you know what you have to do so you can recognize the situation faster and give yourself as much reaction time as possible.

[SturmChurro]

Don't they raise stats and also provide buffs for the floor boss though?

Not enough to justify the time spent farming said chests. Pick them up on the way out. Half the time people get debuffed by some mimic anyway when they go looking for chests.

Actually it's kind of a bad idea to tab out at the exit in PoTD, especially if the party isn't there yet. I've seen mobs spawn on the exit and immediately just roflstomp the afker. It's actually kinda funny to watch if you ever happen upon it.

I have done at least several hundred PoTD and HoH floors and had no problems.

People just trying to be antagonistic, it seems.

[Mhaeric]

People just trying to be antagonistic, it seems.

The black pot speaks.

[Quintessa]

Not enough to justify the time spent farming said chests. Pick them up on the way out. Half the time people get debuffed by some mimic anyway when they go looking for chests.

Alright, you basically linebacker blitz to the end. (I'm totally just having fun here and not trying to pick a fight)

[SturmChurro]

Alright, you basically linebacker blitz to the end. (I'm totally just having fun here and not trying to pick a fight)

Most people don't even use items even when it's 3/3. Definitely won't use damage boost until nearing the end. I have to tell people to use items if we have spare, and even then many don't.

It's definitely much faster to just push to the end of each floor as quickly as possible. If you get a buff or two on the way, great!

[Morningstar1337]

PSA for tanks. Earthly Star is an AoE heal and damage.

Every time I put it down, tanks immediately move everyone away from it.

I had hat problem with Doton sometimes,or when I misjudge how many pulls the Tank is gonna do with Asylum/Star/Soil.

Part of the problem could be solved if there was a way to disable turning off friendly effects, but I imagine that will open a can of worms regarding more low-end/cheap PCs

[Cincierta]

I have done at least several hundred PoTD and HoH floors and had no problems.

People just trying to be antagonistic, it seems.

I'm actually not trying to be antagonistic, just stating what I've seen happen in my runs of PoTD. I was waiting for the rest of the party to show up when we had an afker once sitting at the exit when I ran to it. The newly spawned bear thought that afking mnk's face looked tasty, and the mnk ended up eating dirt. It was actually kinda funny when the rest of the party showed up after the mnk was dead.

Me? I just stayed in the corner and prayed I wouldn't get aggro.

[Banriikku]

A9 for Normal Riads. I was Ast.

After 3 or 4 wipes - the adds, the mechanic with the boulders (scrapstorm ? i think) and even the lava where completly ignored for this first "Rounds"- i start to explain the following:

1. reanimate add with core-thing
2. pull add to marked zone - there will be lava later on
3. kill before lava appears
4. pull big add from its starting position and pull to the next marked position and kill it fast before lava
- if add alive + lava = boom ; add dead but in the arena boss boost and probably wipe

We wipe 8 times. Because? They pulled the big add into the lava when it was alive or ignored it. Then i got blamed for the wipes... then they asked me again, i explained again. Then they asked where i am from - i was confused but answered "germany" and then i got ignored with "a typical toxic german". It took 3 more tries until we beat the boss.

Deep breath and Allaince roulette as Ast - Orbonne.

Early pull from a Danncer, no one puts up a tanks stance. Trash fight was a mess but we did it.
Mustardio it is. Early pull, not a tank, ppl just ignore all mechs and dying left and right. We throw just ppl at the boss and beat him after a eternity.

Next is Agrias. Early pull again from a dps. Tank turns her into the group and ppl dying a lot.
Short version - mechs got ignored we wipe. After that we beat her but it was very close.

DJ Orlando will delete us was my thought at this point and i was right we wiped 5 times even after explanations in the chat.
Ultima killed us 3 times....

I solo healed this hell and got only the waiting game in the end because ppl dont roll for loot because "bigbrain 9000".

The state of the roulette is depressing..

Sorry for my bad english and my salt.

[SturmChurro]

I'm actually not trying to be antagonistic, just stating what I've seen happen in my runs of PoTD. I was waiting for the rest of the party to show up when we had an afker once sitting at the exit when I ran to it. The newly spawned bear thought that afking mnk's face looked tasty, and the mnk ended up eating dirt. It was actually kinda funny when the rest of the party showed up after the mnk was dead.

Me? I just stayed in the corner and prayed I wouldn't get aggro.

Yeah, those people were actually afk. I just tab out, not actually AFK. I can hear or see if something starts attacking me. I wasn't suggesting people go and afk in the exit, just that I would tab out at the exit while people farm chests instead of complaining in chat to some new player or whatever.

Yeah, I've done that before with afkers. It only gets annoying if nobody in the party has a res and you have to go and clear out the respawn thing.

[Quintessa]

Lol as I'm playing this, I'm getting an idea of what works for me including the general feel of the types of players this game has. I'm only tanking at the moment and already I know what I can or can't do, what I should and shouldn't do, and what I don't mind and do mind.

I don't mind healers going about and grabbing extra mobs and bringing it to me, if you wanna be a curebot then so be it, I don't out gear the dungeon though like these i500 people lol I've been put into DF with today, like the run I just /quit from. I'm just i267.

I do mind healers running off and then proceeding to rescue me into more mobs. This happened in Bardem's Mettle. It only took one time for me to pull the first group into the other to know my body can't handle it. Mr healer though had something to say about that as he sprints past me and then follows it up with rescue. Sure we got through that pull, but he heal botted it. Had he kept going and just brought them to me, or you know, spoke up, it'd be fine. Rescue-force-me-into-bigger-pulls = I will leave.

I then trotted my way like little happy Shirley Temple(bless her heart) to a nearby fate and laid waste to an Alpha Anole whilst whistling Lassie's theme song.

Don't rescue-force me. You can do anything else.