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  1. #61
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    MistakeNot's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dfess View Post
    the game is locked behind a massive story.
    You have got it backwards. The massive story IS the game - or at least the majority of the game. Skipping all the story and going directly to the endgame would be like watching a movie, but skipping most of the movie and only watching the last 5 minutes of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    You haven't even presented evidence you're right. And the growing peak online players is more than enough proof.
    Right about what? I never said this game was dying. I said it will die. Proof is other mmos.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    You have got it backwards. The massive story IS the game - or at least the majority of the game. Skipping all the story and going directly to the endgame would be like watching a movie, but skipping most of the movie and only watching the last 5 minutes of it.
    Which people do. Some people only need the last 5 minutes to know if it was a good movie or not.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dfess View Post
    Right about what? I never said this game was dying. I said it will die. Proof is other mmos.
    People have been saying that about xiv since 2013. There's a whole thread that exists mocking it called the many deaths of ffxiv.


    Last I checked, the game is still here and going strong, while most mmos that have released since xiv have gone f2p or p2w within a few months of release.
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    I don't know about a raw boost, but I would like non-bonus FATE exp to be brought up to be more in line with exp/hour for spamming dungeons.
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  6. #66
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    Yeah... This idea "Other MMOs are just about an empty grind to max level, so FFXIV should do the same" is backwards. If FFXIV wasn't a Final Fantasy game with its trademark rich narrative, characters, emphasis on story, myself and plenty of others wouldn't have gotten sucked in. If people want that kind of hollow experience, the other 90% of the market is there all doing the same thing. Go play those other games if you see story progression as an obstacle rather than a selling point. This game isn't for you.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dfess View Post
    Right about what? I never said this game was dying. I said it will die. Proof is other mmos.
    Cool, then we all are in agreement. No one said MMOs are eternal. This one like the others will die.

    Because they all eventually die, not because it's unsustainable.
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esmoire View Post
    Yeah... This idea "Other MMOs are just about an empty grind to max level, so FFXIV should do the same" is backwards. If FFXIV wasn't a Final Fantasy game with its trademark rich narrative, characters, emphasis on story, myself and plenty of others wouldn't have gotten sucked in. If people want that kind of hollow experience, the other 90% of the market is there all doing the same thing. Go play those other games if you see story progression as an obstacle rather than a selling point. This game isn't for you.
    Story progression is an obstacle even in story driven games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dfess View Post
    Story progression is an obstacle even in story driven games.
    Only to those who aren't the target audience when it comes to RPG's. There's plenty of games out there where you can jump right into the action with little or no focus on story. FFXIV isn't one of those games, nor does it need to be changed in order to become one.
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dfess View Post
    Also, do you have evidence that it's not?
    k

    http://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/archives/54501411.html

    "The number of active characters decreased by 180,000 from the previous time (1.04 million) to about 860,000 In February 11". However this census was taken on the 6th of April, 4 days before Patch 5.25 which is a lul content period.

    Still higher than previous concurrent content lul periods.

    I've shown you mine, lets see yours.
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    Last edited by Razard; 06-10-2020 at 10:57 AM.

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