Predictions for job(s) in the next expansion?

[KaerisKlyne]

If we get even closer to Garlemald proper, Chemist as some kind of magitek-based healer could be likely (but I think it could also work as some kind of Thavnairian salvemaker, too, there are a few ways Chemist can be interpreted to fit well into FFXIV). It feels doubtful we'll get Geomancer at all because I think there was a lot of emphasis on it as "this is just an Eastern hybrid of conjury with principles of astromancy".

Did anything ever happen with that Onmyouji/Mystic job concept I recall being shelved to do SAM/RDM as fan-demanded jobs instead? That could be a possible caster DPS if they bring it back.

[BasicBlake]

If we get even closer to Garlemald proper, Chemist as some kind of magitek-based healer could be likely (but I think it could also work as some kind of Thavnairian salvemaker, too, there are a few ways Chemist can be interpreted to fit well into FFXIV). It feels doubtful we'll get Geomancer at all because I think there was a lot of emphasis on it as "this is just an Eastern hybrid of conjury with principles of astromancy".

Did anything ever happen with that Onmyouji/Mystic job concept I recall being shelved to do SAM/RDM as fan-demanded jobs instead? That could be a possible caster DPS if they bring it back.

Speaking of Garlemald and some take on Chemist, the Bozjan Resistance is being led by a Garlean Bartle Medic.

And from the looks of things these days the Ony class got wrapped up into the Geomancer lore.

[Seraphor]

If we get even closer to Garlemald proper, Chemist as some kind of magitek-based healer could be likely (but I think it could also work as some kind of Thavnairian salvemaker, too, there are a few ways Chemist can be interpreted to fit well into FFXIV). It feels doubtful we'll get Geomancer at all because I think there was a lot of emphasis on it as "this is just an Eastern hybrid of conjury with principles of astromancy".

Did anything ever happen with that Onmyouji/Mystic job concept I recall being shelved to do SAM/RDM as fan-demanded jobs instead? That could be a possible caster DPS if they bring it back.

I'm on the same page.

I reckon something to do with Chemist for a healer job, and Geomancer (by way of amalgamating Yanxia Geomancy and some Onmyoji concepts) as a caster DPS.

I can see Geomancer working with ground based AoE effects (think Doton, Sacred Soil etc) as a support caster DPS, with a similar level of rDPS to Bard.
Bundle in some channelled 'spells' and a unique rotation and there's enough there for a caster that works differently to the other three.

[Also Beast Tamer as a physical ranged limited job wielding a Whip, but let's not go too far down that road right now...]

[BasicBlake]

I'm on the same page.

I reckon something to do with Chemist for a healer job, and Geomancer (by way of amalgamating Yanxia Geomancy and some Onmyoji concepts) as a caster DPS.

I can see Geomancer working with ground based AoE effects (think Doton, Sacred Soil etc) as a support caster DPS, with a similar level of rDPS to Bard.
Bundle in some channelled 'spells' and a unique rotation and there's enough there for a caster that works differently to the other three.

[Also Beast Tamer as a physical ranged limited job wielding a Whip, but let's not go too far down that road right now...]

Hey I wouldn’t say Beastmaster is too far down the road! I’d expect a limited job this expansion and Beastmaster is brought up by name in the Bozja story (once you dig through a few dialogue options).

[KaerisKlyne]

I can see Geomancer working with ground based AoE effects (think Doton, Sacred Soil etc) as a support caster DPS, with a similar level of rDPS to Bard.

I always figured GEO's terrain manipulation stuff would make it tough to implement because the game has dropped ground-targeting reticles for DPS jobs. Only the healers have one each, plus DRK's Salted Earth, and I think it's because they're relatively infrequent even used on CD. If skills like that are handled like Doton and just make the target the central point of the effect, I could be convinced hahaha. Those Sai Taisui in Swallow's Compass are pretty obviously offensive GEO concepts. I think some lore would need addressing to make it a support caster though, because of how it's been painted as a healing practice in-game already, I think?

[BasicBlake]

I always figured GEO's terrain manipulation stuff would make it tough to implement because the game has dropped ground-targeting reticles for DPS jobs. Only the healers have one each, plus DRK's Salted Earth, and I think it's because they're relatively infrequent even used on CD. If skills like that are handled like Doton and just make the target the central point of the effect, I could be convinced hahaha. Those Sai Taisui in Swallow's Compass are pretty obviously offensive GEO concepts. I think some lore would need addressing to make it a support caster though, because of how it's been painted as a healing practice in-game already, I think?

Oh my sweet summer child, you have opened that can of worms. It basically comes down to Yanxian lore not having them as healers. But Kyokuho is mending a barrier surrounding Kugane that his great grandfather built in the Ast story.

It basically comes down to nitpicking some poorly translated quests wording and how people interpret what the npc’s in the quest say.

[KaerisKlyne]

Oh my sweet summer child, you have opened that can of worms. It basically comes down to Yanxian lore not having them as healers. But Kyokuho is mending a barrier surrounding Kugane that his great grandfather built in the Ast story.

It basically comes down to nitpicking some poorly translated quests wording and how people interpret what the npc’s in the quest say.

Welp, that's a good enough reason for me to admit I've made a mistake haha!

[Seraphor]

I always figured GEO's terrain manipulation stuff would make it tough to implement because the game has dropped ground-targeting reticles for DPS jobs. Only the healers have one each, plus DRK's Salted Earth, and I think it's because they're relatively infrequent even used on CD. If skills like that are handled like Doton and just make the target the central point of the effect, I could be convinced hahaha. Those Sai Taisui in Swallow's Compass are pretty obviously offensive GEO concepts. I think some lore would need addressing to make it a support caster though, because of how it's been painted as a healing practice in-game already, I think?

Give the ground effect dual purpose.
Perhaps one has a HoT for party members and a DoT for enemies within the AoE.
Perhaps it has a slight DPS buff for party members and a damage down debuff for enemies.
Or a defence buff for party members with a defence down debuff for enemies.
I'm talking 2%/3% effects similar to Bard.

That reflects the 'healer' aspect in the form of a support DPS role.

[BasicBlake]

Give the ground effect dual purpose.
Perhaps one has a HoT for party members and a DoT for enemies within the AoE.
Perhaps it has a slight DPS buff for party members and a damage down debuff for enemies.
Or a defence buff for party members with a defence down debuff for enemies.
I'm talking 2%/3% effects similar to Bard.

That reflects the 'healer' aspect in the form of a support DPS role.

There was a mock up made pre Stormblood that had this really intricate playstyle that involved a buildup of Water/Wind/Earth aether and involved having Geofields placed automatically at your feet and you popped them after you were done in a certain aether to buff your team. I think popping the water one gave an mp refresh, wind gave haste, earth gave regen I think? Granted this was 2017 so some of the concepts do not age that well in certain regards.

Would be a fun way to fill in support caster role without having to place anything by hand.