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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    This is very untrue. All three systems are very different because the way they are implemented effects the level to which they impact the Leveling curve.

    GA was designed to enhance the XP of a single activity that was commonly used by Casual Players to solo levels when they did not have time to play.

    XP band was closer to Rested XP but was designed specifically to mitigate an obscenely taxing Leveling Curve that was daunting even in the best of XP parties.

    Rested XP is an uncontrollable XP Bonus granted to any player who has not played for a day to give them the leg up they need to advance in the game without having to play every day.

    FFXIV does not have a remotely Taxing Leveling Curve. Anyone, no matter how casual, can get 1-3 levels an hour in an XP party. And with the current system, anyone can get 1 level an hour doing Levequests.
    Because leveling is not content now you get it I'm glad you're on board with the WoW movement. We all want this to be WoW.

    WoW for life, we wante WoWFFXIVAbyessea! Rested XP means this is WoW, cause WoW is FFXIV is WoW.

    Kiote we nominated you to be our WoW FFXIV Leader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RemVye View Post
    Because leveling is not content now you get it I'm glad you're on board with the WoW movement. We all want this to be WoW.

    WoW for life, we wante WoWFFXIVAbyessea! Rested XP means this is WoW, cause WoW is FFXIV is WoW.

    Kiote we nominated you to be our WoW FFXIV Leader.
    This does not even make sense..

    Leveling is content, any part of a game you can play with others is content. Most people find partying to be a lot of fun.

    The number one most important aspect of an MMO is character development. The basis for Character Development is leveling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    This does not even make sense..

    Leveling is content, any part of a game you can play with others is content. Most people find partying to be a lot of fun.

    The number one most important aspect of an MMO is character development. The basis for Character Development is leveling.
    So you think level 85 shamans are good? I thought they were nerfed a little but it's much better now I think. Any content that is WoW is what you support this is good for all of us Kiote and just another example of why you are our leader. Fight for our rights to party... content is for fun and we all enjoy fun. Keep it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    This does not even make sense..

    Leveling is content, any part of a game you can play with others is content. Most people find partying to be a lot of fun.

    The number one most important aspect of an MMO is character development. The basis for Character Development is leveling.
    I have to state that levelling in itself isn't content. Partying is content, though. Hell, a party dungeon run is very fun, a party boss fight is fun, running around like headless chickens after a raptor spawns on the CNJ's forehead is fun.
    Grinding levels isn't fun by itself, you don't need to gain levels to have fun bashing monsters in the head with your party. THAT is the thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skies View Post
    I have to state that levelling in itself isn't content. Partying is content, though. Hell, a party dungeon run is very fun, a party boss fight is fun, running around like headless chickens after a raptor spawns on the CNJ's forehead is fun.
    Grinding levels isn't fun by itself, you don't need to gain levels to have fun bashing monsters in the head with your party. THAT is the thing.
    I can't tell if you are with or against us... please select a side, but know this... choose wisely for these words may be your last Persian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    This is very untrue. All three systems are very different because the way they are implemented effects the level to which they impact the Leveling curve.

    GA was designed to enhance the XP of a single activity that was commonly used by Casual Players to solo levels when they did not have time to play.

    XP band was closer to Rested XP but was designed specifically to mitigate an obscenely taxing Leveling Curve that was daunting even in the best of XP parties.

    Rested XP is an uncontrollable XP Bonus granted to any player who has not played for a day to give them the leg up they need to advance in the game without having to play every day.

    FFXIV does not have a remotely Taxing Leveling Curve. Anyone, no matter how casual, can get 1-3 levels an hour in an XP party. And with the current system, anyone can get 1 level an hour doing Levequests.
    This post is wrong. It's presumptuous in it's claims on the development teams motivations and fails to include context whilst still making very specific claims.

    Unless you are a Square-Enix developer, have spoken with the development team as a consultant, or can cite them directly you're claims for why things are implemented are purely anecdotal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    FFXIV does not have a remotely Taxing Leveling Curve. Anyone, no matter how casual, can get 1-3 levels an hour in an XP party. And with the current system, anyone can get 1 level an hour doing Levequests.
    I'd agree with this point in regards to the DoM/DoW classes, but when it comes to DoL and especially DoH, its a real grind.

    Also, even though the FFXI XP rings, GA, Fatigue, and Rested XP work in different ways, they are all effectively designed to accomplish the same thing -- to help reduce the leveling gap between hardcore and casual.
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    I'm surprised why I haven't read these 3 little very important words as of yet:

    [SIZE="6"]IT'S NOT NECESSARY[/SIZE].

    Just like fatigue and market wards. Fucksake just LEAVE SHIT ALONE! GO MAKE SOME DUNGEONS AND BOSSES!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kairyu View Post
    When i didnt think this game could get any easier to level and go and do something like this... Like seriously wtf everyone and brother will have every single dow/dom job lvl 50 by 2.0 release. Leveling jobs should be part of the game or an experience, it was in 11. This game is just a boring grind fest in every aspect with no meaning.. leveling jobs 1-50 is just feels so pointless.. Idk i know most people felt 11 was that way but i felt like leveling had so much more meaning. In 11 having good gear actually meant something while leveling. Having the right party setup.. This game is just so easy.. Stick any 8 people with any jobs with any gear and you have a fast as hell exp party. SO stupid, then they add rested experience.

    Otherwise the rest of the patch info looks suprisingly decent.
    It's exactly the same as the guardian thing, no big deal. Looks like the same thing but applied differently.
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    LOL cash shop! SE's way to tell their player how they appreciate them... pull the carrot and empty your pockets $$$
    And to those who support it: you are kicking yourselves. -- We just need to sit back and laugh at people with cash shop items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    I'm surprised why I haven't read these 3 little very important words as of yet:

    [SIZE="6"]IT'S NOT NECESSARY[/SIZE].

    Just like fatigue and market wards. Fucksake just LEAVE SHIT ALONE! GO MAKE SOME DUNGEONS AND BOSSES!!
    You bring the crowns and heads of conquered kings to my forum threads. You insult my queen. You threaten my people with slavery and death! Oh, I've chosen my words carefully, Xoo. Perhaps you should have done the same!

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