So, what's your opinion on current healer jobs

[Payotz]

WHM fairs the best, but it isn't good, either. Lilies are arguably more useless than before; Clones of Cure II and Medica without a cast time are extremely unnecessary for anyone that knows how to precast properly, and having both of these Afflatus Skills still adhere to the GCD makes for an extremely awkward flow when they are used.

I'd argue that Lilies are extremely useful for weaving and movement. An instacast Medica or Cure 2 is better for movement and leaves a lot of room for double weaving if necessary. Plus it's more of a dps gain compared to regen, and hardcasting heals because of the Blood Lily, even though it's technically still a dps loss compared to spamming Glare.

Old SB WHM iirc had to either hard clip their Stone 4s, overwrite a regen or overwrite their dots in order to weave. New lilies solve that problem a bit by giving more weaving opportunities.

[althenawhm]

I'd argue that Lilies are extremely useful for weaving and movement. An instacast Medica or Cure 2 is better for movement and leaves a lot of room for double weaving if necessary. Plus it's more of a dps gain compared to regen, and hardcasting heals because of the Blood Lily, even though it's technically still a dps loss compared to spamming Glare.

Old SB WHM iirc had to either hard clip their Stone 4s, overwrite a regen or overwrite their dots in order to weave. New lilies solve that problem a bit by giving more weaving opportunities.

Yeah, I'd say the lilies are great now, the only problem being they should have been great in Stormblood and the job should have moved forward this expansion.

[Payotz]

Yeah, I'd say the lilies are great now, the only problem being they should have been great in Stormblood and the job should have moved forward this expansion.

Yeah, I agree, and not only that, the other two healers should not be dragged down to WHM's level so WHM can compete.
Healers and Tanks should have their kit be improved, not gutted.
SE imo should start looking into adding complexity, not dumbing down roles.