For The Love Of God Please Add Skip Cut Scene To The Story Dungeons

[Iscah]

Know what gets me does SE really not trust us at all. Why not just do what they do with current dungeons like say titan, you skip the cutscene you are simply forced to wait for the person to finish watching it before you can start the fight. It is not perfect, but it is something at least.

That's not about old vs current - you are always locked in place at the very beginning of the dungeon. When the MSQ dungeon cutscenes were skippable, they were the same - you were locked in place during the intro cutscene but no others. They don't seem to be able to re-apply that lock mid-dungeon, or it would be an obvious solution.

I don't see what this has to do with "SE not trusting us" though. How would locking us in place be any different?

If anything I think it's what they could do within their system. They can force unskippable cutscenes and auto-scrolling text, as both functions already existed elsewhere in the game, but probably can't force locking in place.

[PharisHanasaki]

Anyway the solution to this should be easy. A single check at the start. Has everyone done this before? Yes? Great! Cutscenes skipped won't even start them.

Let me tell you what will happen based on the reason this was implemented in the first place. People will do a check to agree to skip cutscenes. Someone did not agree? I leave, the rest of the party follows, they try again. The new person is forced to go back into queue. It has happened before, they don't even need to get out with a penalty, just fake dc.

The only way this can work is to force everyone to agree to the same choice, watching all cutscenes. A better solution is to make this a solo dungeon, with a warning that it will take time to finish and watch all the cs. This would eliminate the need for a roulette, but it will also remove a source of good xp.

They trusted us to do the right thing for years, and people openly justified kicking newbies because "it's my time, it's my play style, so I can do it", without considering the reason the roulette was made for: To help newbies.

[Krotoan]

21 pages I'm gonna bet this has been said many times.. but you want the reward you have to earn it. That reward is because of the bother. Want to skip the bother? They'll remove the reward. "But then I don't wanna do it".. ok.. so don't. It's an incentive to put up with the cutscenes, not a fixed reward for the dungeons.

It's like asking the people you're doing volunteer work for if you can skip all the work and just have the free lunch.

[Awha]

That's not about old vs current - you are always locked in place at the very beginning of the dungeon. When the MSQ dungeon cutscenes were skippable, they were the same - you were locked in place during the intro cutscene but no others. They don't seem to be able to re-apply that lock mid-dungeon, or it would be an obvious solution.

I don't see what this has to do with "SE not trusting us" though. How would locking us in place be any different?

If anything I think it's what they could do within their system. They can force unskippable cutscenes and auto-scrolling text, as both functions already existed elsewhere in the game, but probably can't force locking in place.

If they locked people in place during cut scenes even if people did skip them they could not proceed with the fight. Since that seems to be major issue with skipping cut scenes, the aspect of people missing out on fights. The thing they do it for dunegons at the start, so the code exists, I mean sure it might take some QA work but in theory they could treat certain areas as a locked off zone during a cut scene, a akin to the barrier that prevents one from going forward in a pvp match.

I generally think they probably could do it but are afraid people would pester those that do not skip the cut scenes. It would not change much, but when talking with others some honestly wish they could just skip the cut scene even if that means they could not enter the boss area. Though if they also did it that way if everyone did akip the cutscene they could move on with the run. Only reason I cannot fathom why SE did not go this route is because they do not trust us to play nice and not harass people into skippinh.

[Iscah]

If they locked people in place during cut scenes even if people did skip them they could not proceed with the fight.

Yes, it's an obvious solution.

So if it's obvious and they haven't done it, then it's quite possible that it's not as simple as it looks or they would do it.

[lol123]

Cant believe this is still active. Look se is not going to let you skip cutscreens in these 2 dungeons its for new players to enjoy the story without being harassed. Dont like the cutscreens then dont do it its simple as that.

[Awha]

Yes, it's an obvious solution.

So if it's obvious and they haven't done it, then it's quite possible that it's not as simple as it looks or they would do it.

No matter how ancient or broken the base line code is, if the function exists in one form of another altering it to serve another function is more of a QA thing. I willing to be they felt that making it function like that would be too similar to how things were before where people were removing players for watching cut scenes and not taking part in the fighgs themselves, or they are afraid people will leave the dungeon if they are forced to wait on one or two people to watch. Call me crazy but I do not think SE trusts the community to act in a civil manner and that is why they went the forced route.

[PharisHanasaki]

Call me crazy but I do not think SE trusts the community to act in a civil manner and that is why they went the forced route.

I think it also had to do with people abusing the old ToS, everyone tossed in the "Different playstyles" card everytime you called them out for doing obviously wrong things like kicking newbies for watching CS. With the new one in place, you can be sure people will be punished, so even if they do it once, when they get reported they will stop.

[Iscah]

Call me crazy but I do not think SE trusts the community to act in a civil manner and that is why they went the forced route.

That's because the community can't.

For a long time SE left the cutscenes unenforced, presumably with the idealistic expectation that people would wait for others to finish.

Everyone skipped? Great, you can move on early because everyone has indicated that they want to.

Someone is watching still? Sit and wait until you can move on as a group.

This would be acting in a civil manner and the community showed (and continues to show) that they cannot be trusted to act this way. So now we have to wait every time instead of only sometimes.

[Seraphor]

That's because the community can't.

For a long time SE left the cutscenes unenforced, presumably with the idealistic expectation that people would wait for others to finish.

Everyone skipped? Great, you can move on early because everyone has indicated that they want to.

Someone is watching still? Sit and wait until you can move on as a group.

This would be acting in a civil manner and the community showed (and continues to show) that they cannot be trusted to act this way. So now we have to wait every time instead of only sometimes.

To be fair, this is done (in general) in dungeons.
So I think this is at least partly due to how easy the instances are. When someone is in a cutscene in a dungeon, you wait, because you either can't do it without the tank or healer, or being down one DPS will make it take longer anyway so you might as well wait. (or, at least some of the time, just basic human decency)
Castrum/Prae are so easy you can complete it with half the party, or even just a good DPS and a good healer.