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  1. #191
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    PharisHanasaki's Avatar
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    Sodapop Jam
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    Jenova
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    The skip was removed because people insisted that kicking newbies on this roulette was fair.
    The roulette was added so people helped newbies clear this content.

    So Yoshi P replied by removing the option to skip.
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  2. #192
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    AduroT's Avatar
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    Aduro Terrarum
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    Hyperion
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    Miner Lv 80
    You can’t kick people for skipping cutscenes on account of being stuck in a cutscene. You can still see their names in the battle log and report them when it’s over though, which I have done.
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  3. #193
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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AduroT View Post
    You can’t kick people for skipping cutscenes on account of being stuck in a cutscene. You can still see their names in the battle log and report them when it’s over though, which I have done.
    At least in Prae, the window opportunity for kicking someone is slim, since most people are in combat [due to add skipping] until Nero, and after that is a chain of cutscenes and combat. Really the only times to kick someone is after leaving Maggie and running the corridor to engage Nero, and after fighting him and running to the elevator to fight Gaius, and that's like 4 seconds at most in both cases.
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  4. #194
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    Aduro Terrarum
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    Hyperion
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    Miner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    At least in Prae, the window opportunity for kicking someone is slim, since most people are in combat [due to add skipping] until Nero, and after that is a chain of cutscenes and combat. Really the only times to kick someone is after leaving Maggie and running the corridor to engage Nero, and after fighting him and running to the elevator to fight Gaius, and that's like 4 seconds at most in both cases.
    Last time I saw someone skipping they didn’t start till Nero and then it was nothing but back to back cutscenes other than like five or ten seconds of the second part of the Ultima fight.
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  5. #195
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    Quote Originally Posted by AduroT View Post
    Last time I saw someone skipping they didn’t start till Nero and then it was nothing but back to back cutscenes other than like five or ten seconds of the second part of the Ultima fight.
    Yeah Prae skipping is weird, the mini cut scenes do not save all that much time depending on your rig, but if enough people skip Nero, you can save a lot of time.
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  6. #196
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    The_Nekomancer's Avatar
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    Cookie Allucaneet
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 80
    I really love the, "Skip a portion of this game if you don't like it." I mean I understand the idea, but cmon really?

    Anyway the solution to this should be easy. A single check at the start. Has everyone done this before? Yes? Great! Cutscenes skipped won't even start them.

    Someone hasn't watched them yet? Guess what you are watching all of them. Kick them? You are still going to watch them. I can understand wanting to watch them and the meme of, "Movie/nap time" is apparent and obvious by this point. Though having an unskippable cutscene dungeon in an event seems either really cruel or a joke on the developers part.
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  7. #197
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    Tsaranoga's Avatar
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    Tsaranoga Omegon
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Nah, I would not put my friends though MSQ willingly. That is cruel and unusual punishment. Though as i said I do often play tank or healer so I agree people are less likely to boot those roles.

    I agree that my experience differs from others, might be the data center, time or many other factors dependent. Nevertheless, I can only speak from my own experience, and have yet to be removed from it though I also rarely queue for dps for msq since I would be at the mercy if the tank or healer.

    Lol hard to Mongo the boss as a dps without help even in MSQ. Maybe I am crazy but when I first ran them before the change I was stuck in a literal loop of cut scenes after the magiktech mech ride along part. I was bummed at first since I missed the fights but did it again soon after and they fights were kind of meh tbh. Turns out I did not miss much, that is what gets me. The fights are basic to the core, they trash pulls leading up to the boss require me button presses at times. ( exaggeration)
    So let me ask, if its too boring to go trough it, why do you continue to do it anyway(oh yeah, the "rewards")? I have done it propably over a 100 times just in these 4 months i have played with this character and the only reason i don't do them anymore (or any dungeon anymore) is because i don't want to do all the work for people watching netflix or something. This obviously is not the same thing as skipping the cutscenes but still... dealing with other peoples BS all the same.
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  8. #198
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsaranoga View Post
    So let me ask, if its too boring to go trough it, why do you continue to do it anyway(oh yeah, the "rewards")? I have done it propably over a 100 times just in these 4 months i have played with this character and the only reason i don't do them anymore (or any dungeon anymore) is because i don't want to do all the work for people watching netflix or something. This obviously is not the same thing as skipping the cutscenes but still... dealing with other peoples BS all the same.
    It is quick enough if one skips the cutscenes, and not like you need the entire group to skip for it to be much faster. I have no issue dealing with people, if people want to tab out and do whatever that is fine by me, if the run is too slow I will leave.

    I was just saying I could see why people view purposeful leeching different from simply watching cut scenes. I do not care either way, since I skip them anyways.

    In the end i just do it for the daily reward that is it, I do a lot of stuff in game I find boring because the rewards are decent and it does not take that much time. If they made it ao you could no longer skip them at all I would never touch it again.
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  9. #199
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Nekomancer View Post
    Anyway the solution to this should be easy. A single check at the start. Has everyone done this before? Yes? Great! Cutscenes skipped won't even start them.

    Someone hasn't watched them yet? Guess what you are watching all of them. Kick them? You are still going to watch them. I can understand wanting to watch them and the meme of, "Movie/nap time" is apparent and obvious by this point. Though having an unskippable cutscene dungeon in an event seems either really cruel or a joke on the developers part.
    People keep suggesting this and it's not that simple.

    Firstly, people won't stick around for those unskippable scenes. They'll abandon.

    Secondly, the system needs to be able to give that choice, and it most probably can't.

    We have had this discussion multiple times in this thread and every other one and next week we'll have a new thread where everyone will propose the same "easy solution" ten times over again.

    If it was that easy to implement, they would have done it.

    As for it being in the moogle tome event? They want people to run this content so they add the incentive. There are still several other options for you to earn tomes without touching this particular roulette.
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  10. #200
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    Know what gets me does SE really not trust us at all. Why not just do what they do with current dungeons like say titan, you skip the cutscene you are simply forced to wait for the person to finish watching it before you can start the fight. It is not perfect, but it is something at least.
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