Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Morningstar1337]

I'm sorry but why people blame the jump potions first? I've seen so many players who are so bad that never jumped anything. I actually see more of that then bad jumpers. I wish people stop jumping on the blame pot train first. But that's just me I guess. Tho your other point I agree with this being alot of people's first mmo.

1. Some folk aren't keen on microtransactions in general. Most are fine with cosmetics...
2. But the Tales of Adventure items are seen as more of a "Pay 2 Win" feature, as it enables players to skip entire levels and xpacs worth of content. Which means it attracts more aggro then a tank.
3. Furthermore, the game admittedly has a steep learning curve, and the tutorials are either optimal or take the form of pop-ups that can be clicked away without reading a single word. Most players are thus left to be taught by their experience, and a fresh player, regardless of starting at 1 or 70, naturally has less experience than the veterans

All of those means that the jump potions are the perfect scapegoat with those with a bone to pick with mictotransactions or prefer players be experienced when tacking the latest xpac's content.

[Canada_bangs]

1. Some folk aren't keen on microtransactions in general. Most are fine with cosmetics...
2. But the Tales of Adventure items are seen as more of a "Pay 2 Win" feature, as it enables players to skip entire levels and xpacs worth of content. Which means it attracts more aggro then a tank.
3. Furthermore, the game admittedly has a steep learning curve, and the tutorials are either optimal or take the form of pop-ups that can be clicked away without reading a single word. Most players are thus left to be taught by their experience, and a fresh player, regardless of starting at 1 or 70, naturally has less experience than the veterans

All of those means that the jump potions are the perfect scapegoat with those with a bone to pick with mictotransactions or prefer players be experienced when tacking the latest xpac's content.

I wish I had numbers but all the bad players I've met have been people who didn't jump, and have all or most classes at 80. The ones you think should know how to play. The jumpers I met have been a joy to play with and take the game seriously. But It's just like the mentor system. Word on the street says mentors are horrible players and the bad ones will always outshine the decent ones. So it's the same with jumpers honestly. Yes I'm a jumper and I take my roles VERY seriously. To the point I can spend 2 days nonstop practicing rotations. This isn't me yelling at you, I know you were just explaining it to me. It just hits a cord I guess.

[Verrabbit]

I wish I had numbers but all the bad players I've met have been people who didn't jump, and have all or most classes at 80.

From my experience, this has a lot of that has to do with an attitude of "I'm only leveling this job right now to get it to 80 for achievements, I won't touch it again until next expansion, why bother learning it?"

[KaleShibata]

From my experience, this has a lot of that has to do with an attitude of "I'm only leveling this job right now to get it to 80 for achievements, I won't touch it again until next expansion, why bother learning it?"

see my only class i had that mindset with was AST since it stopped being a class I'd play.

Difference here is i actually bothered to use it correctly...

[KageTokage]

I am a new healer, and definitely not as familiar or comfortable with healing mechanics as I am with tanking and DPS. I just had to leave an attempt to run Brayflox's Longstop because, it was clear, I could not keep up. Health bars were melting left and right and, even when the tank tried to take pity on me and pull small, I couldn't pull it off with a full set of battlemage gear. We didn't even get to Hellbender before we had wiped already multiple times. The first wipe came even before the first boss, when a galago managed to aggro me and killed me. We also wiped at the first boss, when i couldn't keep up with the poison stacks on the party members; adds later got me there. We wiped again on the stretch between the second boss and hellbender.

To the party: I'm sorry I couldn't keep up with y'all. I've always known Brayflox was one of the first jumps in difficulty in this game but had never had issues with it as a tank or DPS before, so I didn't register how big of a jump it was for healers. You guys deserved better.

I liked healing before, but I'm pretty bad at it. Think I'll go back to DPS and tanking now

Brayflox is a difficulty spike, but if you could handle Haukke Manor, it shoudn't be that bad.

If people are being dumb and standing in AoEs or letting mobs beat on you, that's on them and you shouldn't consider yourself bad because you couldn't keep them alive through circumstances you shouldn't be having to deal with in the first place.

[Enla]

I am a new healer, and definitely not as familiar or comfortable with healing mechanics as I am with tanking and DPS. I just had to leave an attempt to run Brayflox's Longstop because, it was clear, I could not keep up. Health bars were melting left and right and, even when the tank tried to take pity on me and pull small, I couldn't pull it off with a full set of battlemage gear. We didn't even get to Hellbender before we had wiped already multiple times. The first wipe came even before the first boss, when a galago managed to aggro me and killed me. We also wiped at the first boss, when i couldn't keep up with the poison stacks on the party members; adds later got me there. We wiped again on the stretch between the second boss and hellbender.

To the party: I'm sorry I couldn't keep up with y'all. I've always known Brayflox was one of the first jumps in difficulty in this game but had never had issues with it as a tank or DPS before, so I didn't register how big of a jump it was for healers. You guys deserved better.

I liked healing before, but I'm pretty bad at it. Think I'll go back to DPS and tanking now

To add to what Rymm and Kage are saying it doesn't sound like you did anything wrong honestly. The adds should have been picked up by the tank, period. With aggro being what it is now there is no way you should have been taking aggro unless the tank outright decided to be lazy. Particularly when you mention the poison stacks on all the party, not just the tank. Unless they've changed stuff recently the tank is the only one that should be getting poisoned in that fight. All told, you weren't at fault here if things went the way you're saying. You just got a tank that wasn't doing their job and did you as a newbie healer absolutely NO favors. Based on what you're saying, I doubt the tank was using defensives either if they couldn't be bothered to pick up adds.

Can I ask which healing class you were playing?

[Tlamila]

To add to what others said "Health bars were melting left and right" sounds like a hell of a run. Others than dps standing where they shouldn't and tank not picking up adds, I have a feeling tank maybe also wasn't using mitigation cds? And something something paper gear.

[michael32209]

Ran Garuda (normal) tank came in with mismatched gear ranging from 16 - high 30's only noticed after the first wipe.
Figured must have been a fluke and he must know what he is doing with the low lvl gear.
Needless to say, several wipes later I call it out asking why he didn't have proper gear, no response. Everyone else starts looking and questioning it too, penalty timer comes and goes, we all dip.
I instantly queue, determined to beat her after all those wipes... Same tank, they run in while I'm typing, explain the tanks situation nicely and dip taking the penalty..

[AduroT]

I never found Brayflox that hard of one to heal for, yeah. Bit higher on the damage scale where I had to spend more time healing and less DPSing, but nothing like what was described. Definitely sounds more like a tank problem.

[Frizze]

I liked healing before, but I'm pretty bad at it. Think I'll go back to DPS and tanking now

Ill join the others offering encouragement here. The story you shared is one of a bad run. We all have bad runs, or this thread wouldnt be almost 28000 posts deep. But nothing in your story was definitive proof that you are bad at healing. You had a run where the tanks health was yoyoing even on small pulls. A run where there were aggro problems. A run where the DPS were taking excess damage. A great healer probly drags that group to the finish line(a smart healer nopes out and waits for a better group), but it doesnt sound like they deserved it. And you are a new healer. Most great healers are still learning the ropes at that point in the level curve - as in, they arent great yet.

So my advice would be to take a short break from healing(a day or two at most). Let the bad taste from that run fade a bit. Do some introspection. Do you understand what your healy buttons do, and when to use each of them? If no, seek help from some experienced healers. Is your gear(especially your weapon) up to snuff? If no, seek upgrades. Have you done your class quests for the extra spells they teach? If no, do them and then make sure you understand these spells too. Once you are done looking within, get back out there and try healing again. If you enjoyed it then you deserve the chance to try to make it work.

So are you a bad healer? Time will tell, but that last run is inconclusive. Need further data. And even if you are, you can learn to be better if you really want to.